801. - Jeff Goldblum

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Thursday. I know what day it is this time. I've gotten my week straight. I'm in the J. Crew office in my little... my zone feels good to be back recording here okay you're back in the pod the lab this is your dear media studios but there's a lot more sweaters tied around the shoulders exactly i think at dear media studios it's a mandatory uh midriff reveal um which is you know policy i'm not i'm not gonna speak out against but you know it's something depends on the associate who in question is what you're saying well speaking of speaking of west hollywood midriffs i went to uh your friends of the show tom brown they had a store opening on melrose place and i was looking around and you know a tom brown event everyone is wearing you know tip to tail and their finest browneries they've got the silver dog bags they have the peculiar umbrellas everyone's got skirts and the whole thing but there was one guy who was wearing tom brown the best i've ever seen it he was wearing He was like a super slim suit. And then, you know, like the tie was obviously perfectly untied and, you know, askew. And then maybe a little flower in the front pocket of the jacket, a little tiny vest. And then the shirt underneath, like the white dresser underneath, instead of being tucked in, was cut.

And it was revealing about a two-inch midriff on a three-piece suit. And to pull that off is very tough. Yeah, that's God-tier stuff. I mean, I've seen Kelly that works there. She's done some midriff and sleeve cutting, but she's an expert, so it's a little different. Do you think this was a customer or an employee? I think it could be a secret third thing, just like an influential bottom. Okay. Just like a rich kid who gets fashion really well. You can kind of tell when somebody has been invited to the store opening or the dinner because they're a VIP client. Of course. Because they often look like their Chinese company just bought Hudson Bay in an acquisition. We love an acquisition. The acquisition took years, but we were able to finally get the job done. And we're going to close those factories and shut those guys down. So they either look like that. So this guy looked cool. He looked as if he can get the TB for free. He's happy to buy it because money and a thing. Did you introduce yourself to this gentleman? No, I just kind of stared at him from six feet away and then told Carolyn he's the coolest dressed person there. I'm trying to. normalized just going up to people and being like yeah this looks good i do it all the time i do it all the time it's a nice thing to hear but everyone thinks you're a creep if you do that now man or woman you can't give a regular compliment like that it's it's a little too suspect i agree but also just like um you know how we handle the the current cancellation landscape the minefield you got to be ready to have somebody look at you like you're a creep or a weirdo because you said hey that shirt looks really cool awesome and then if If they are protruded by that or creeped out by that, let them be. Yeah. I'm never going to see them again. Who gives a shit? They kind of deserve it. Yeah. If you have a problem with that, then you deserve whatever the problem is. 50% of the time, they're like, thanks, man. Yeah. And then the other half the time, they're like, a strange person just talked to me on the street. What's happening? Pepper Serena. And those people.

You're never going to win them over to begin with. They're living in a prison of their own fear. Walking through the West Village, you could definitely get pepper sprayed for saying, I like your bag. A hundred percent. You're a hundred. That is the whole problem over there. Some chick leaving San Ambrose, fucking Aperol Spritz drunk. You give her a compliment. Good luck. You might get pushed into traffic. That's when her fat friend grabs her. Come on, Ashley. We're leaving. Come on, Ashley. The bread basket's gone. Fat Fred ain't going to let that shit slide. Definitely not. Definitely not. She's got eyes on the situation. Speaking of cancellation, I also hosted a book launch for our friend, Honor Levy. Our friend, yeah. Our friend, yeah, her book just got the paperback second edition or whatever. Oh, that's okay. That's what, okay, okay, okay. Added a chapter, so I got to hang out with all of. uh los angeles's finest edgelords and poets and literary geniuses so is this just was this just a red scare reddit meetup or was this like real people no it was real i got to meet honor's parents who were really nice and really sweet uh but yeah it was it was a nice collection of people and she read a she read a chapter and we just kind of talked about You know, we were just bullshitting on stage. And then we went to this restaurant called Baby Bistro, a new hot, buzzing restaurant in Echo Park. Don't love the name, but how was it? Why don't you like it? It's a small bistro. Yeah, I got that. What if it's the size of an airplane hanger? I'm checking it out now. I mean, oh, it is cute. I like the website. It's very cute. The website has handwriting on it, but it's bad handwriting. You know what I mean? This person clearly didn't do graffiti. This looks cute, though. Let me see this handwriting. You know what I mean? It's on their website? Yeah, it looks like a first grader kind of vibe. Like a high school girl. I like this handwriting. No, no. This feels like a font. You think so? I think that's a font. Motherfucker. Oh, so this is another fake restaurant with six things on the menu, so you have to eat afterwards. Well, we fired the menu, and I think we were satisfied. We were satiated.

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm looking at these Bs. You can always tell if the letters are repeating if it's a font or not. The Bs are repeating. Are the Bs giving repetition? They could just be really accurate, but they're giving repetition to me. I'm no expert. Sorry, I lost focus because I was checking out the beans and nettles for 16. Motherfucker, it is a haunt. I told you. The beans, honestly, no high probability, the bean dish was their most complex offering. Dude, I love a bean. Where did I have beans the other day? I had some beans recently. They were so good. Oh, at Bar Bianchi, that new place in the East Village. The beans were amazing. Okay, so I'm allowed to eat my beans for 16 at Baby Bistro, but when you go to Bar Bianchi to eat your beans for 16... That's okay? What's going on? No, neither are okay. We're both losers. I'm not saying that at all. We're both losers that paid $20 for a plate of beans at a restaurant that might close in six months. But it was fun being there. It tasted good when it was going down. Honestly, you would have loved this meal. Not the beef part, but their striped bass, you would have really been wiggling that back leg like Margo. The turnips and tofu, there was a pop from the raspberry. Oh, raspberry. I didn't see that list on the ingredients. That was wild. Okay. Get crazy with it, Baby Bistro. Baby Bistro just sounds like Baby Billy, and that's why maybe it's a timing thing. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not for everyone. Do you think Danny McBride could be an investor? Do we know for sure where the money comes from? Not 100% sure either way. That's definitely on the table. So this is an Echo Park. Where is it? Is it like near Canyon Coffee and shit like that and like Despair Books or is it in its own zone? You know, I've never been to Canyon Coffee because I think I'm too cool to do that stuff. But it's in this little... I've been there once and I have to say that you are too cool. And like I was embarrassed to be... The product was good.

Product was good. I'm sure it's good. I would be too embarrassed to go there. I mean, going everywhere is embarrassing. You know that. Going most places, not everywhere. But there's like a little tiny kind of village, kind of like the Melrose Place, but in a more poverty-stricken part of Los Angeles. Yeah, when I think of Echo Park, I think of poverty. Well, I mean, are you being sarcasm or no? At this point, I'm being sarcasm. I think that Echo Park is where a certain kind of rich person prefers to live because that's what they want to say about themselves. Well, I mean, you can go to see his house on the top of the hill, or you can go to where I was at last night where, you know, MS-13 is still holding the block down. Look, I know you've woken up in some shitty two bedrooms in Echo Park. Don't get me wrong. Bro, come on, bro. Hey, you talking about, can I get a ride now? Yo, like, where am I? I live kind of far from here. You could just drop me off at Little Dom's. I mean, I'm just going to go straight there anyway. Dude, they have a really sick Bloody Mary. It's, like, super good. Dude, once I get one of those in me, I'm, like, I'm ready to go. Yeah, so there's, like, a little, there's a place called Perilla, and they sell, like, little Korean, like. lunch bento boxes and panchans you know you like all that stuff right yeah i love that um i like that there's a little zone though i like being able to walk to several small businesses yeah there's there's like there's a bakery there's like a smash burger place there's this little wine bistro and then of course there's a tattoo shop just to round it all out you know you know the rent's going up when the tattooers move in oh man uh i i We didn't talk about Drewski's Whiteface skit, but I just wanted to shine the light. We only have a brief minute. I think our guest might be here. I just want to shine a light on that. So if you haven't seen it yet, go watch it. That's all I can say. I saw a video from a white gangster who had a rebuttal who said, you know, we are a few, but we do exist, and you have to respect us. I saw it. It's so cool. Oh, man. It's such a great delivery. We announced today also we're going to be at Levitation Fest in Austin.

september 25th or 28th we're gonna do a couple of a couple of things while we're in town yeah we're gonna do some some live potting and uh it could be a little them jeans dj set as well but hey don't get hey hey i don't want to get too excited now come on lineup is really up my alley we've got we've got blood incantation unknown unknown mortal orchestra johnstown massacre one of my favorite bands of all time blonde redhead Wednesday, we were just playing their song last week on the pod. And then, obviously, Pavement, Built to Spill. You know, a lot of legends. Now we're getting into the zone. Now we're getting into the zone. I can't wait to watch Pavement with you as the sun sets over fucking Austin, Texas. I just like that Brian's Donestown and the Dandy Warhols are on the same festival lineup in 2025. Maybe we should try to get them together. Yeah. Maybe we kind of set it up. on stage meeting it'll be a jerry springer style episode of how long gone exactly uh but also get your tickets for for our shows this summer uh those are up on the how long gone website as we speak you can click the link get the tickets and uh all right anyway our guest today legendary actor musician jeff goldblum rock on tour rock on tour he is um currently in the midst of a four night sold out show uh at the carlisle in new york and then he's playing bowery ballroom on sunday i believe we're all we all we play the same venues as jeff goldman that's so cool let's try to see i'm gonna try to see if i can figure out what room he's in over at the carlisle drop the room number king all right let's give him a zoom this episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian stateside with kai and carter this is covering a lot of our bases jason it's a it's trying to slow down The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned.

They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable, and they're just easy but still put together. I don't look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada. That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is this is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture.

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Sure, sure. Let me open my notes app now and kind of get started. You guys keep talking. I'm going to work on this song. We can discuss points on the whole deal. I don't need a full songwriting credit, but 50% royalties seems fair. Well, I'm no negotiator, but I'll put that in the hands of the people on the team who can do that. We won't try to screw you. Whatever is fair. I trust you for some reason. I know we just met, but I trust you to give me fair splits. Yeah, don't fuck me on this, Jeff. I need this, Jeff. I need this. You can trust me. Look in my eyes. Look in my eyes. I thought you might be wearing some Jacques-Marie Maje sunglasses today. You have them ready, I hope. Yeah, there we go. Okay, thank you. I almost didn't recognize you. Yeah, I know. Not only are these Jacques-Marie Maje, but as I'm sure I bragged before, these are the Jeffs. You've got the signature model, which is a goal for – I'm a big JMM guy myself, and they haven't offered me the same. kind of treatment so hopefully one day i'll get there you're a shoe-in i don't know why you've been left behind maybe they're surprising you for your you know 30th birthday i think it's i think it's because he is uh not even close to really being famous enough to get his own jmm i mean maybe for a lesser brand you could do a little short run but I think you'd be surprised who they've collaborated with. That's a good point. Chris Black, they're probably frightened. They're intimidated. They probably don't hope to think that you could ever do that with them. But I will not put in a word because I know Jerome Maj. I'm going to say, you know, Chris Black might be interested. I think it would mean a lot coming from you, and I appreciate that. Well, I don't know about that. It'll mean very little. I carry no weight at all. How many colors of the Jeff are there? Good question. You know, we've released in the past, I think there's a goldish, a mustardy goldish thing. There's a zebra, white and black zebra stripe, believe it or not. And then there's this blackish one. There might be a kind of, you know, tortoise shell, brownish. How often are you rocking the zebra, though?

You know, I got it in my drawer at home, even though I've tried to, you know, clip away the detritus and get it very, very manageable, you know, as few few things as possible. So I have the zebras. I must say I have not been reaching for it. You open the drawer and you see the zebras. You're like. I'm Jeff Goldblum and this is a little much for me. You know what I mean? Well, it is a special occasion. It's a black tie. I think it's a black tie kind of situation. I love what you're saying. We could talk all about that. You know what I like speaking of black tie? I like to tie my own bow tie these days. I think there's a big difference between a pre-tied thing and something. You know what I'm really looking for? I keep Googling a big... floppy bow tie because i look at frank sinatra those pictures in the early days yeah yeah i kind of want something a little i have something in mind that's a little like that once once you tie it it's a little bit floppy you want it to be a little billowy a little improv like the like the the ears of a basset hound puppy too big for his head i like the floppy bow tie as well i've i've yet to learn how to tie one and last time i had to wear one My friend Sam Hine had to tie it for me in a rush, and I did feel emasculated 100%. Oh, no, you mustn't. You reek of testosterone. You could never, even if somebody's tying your tie. Your masculinity... There's nothing more humbling than a good-looking man already in a tuxedo standing behind you like you're his son tying a bow tie in front of other people. You know, it's a fun... Gotta lower the T-count a little bit is what you're saying. Hey, I'm used to it. You know, if you do movies, if you're shooting on Fifth Avenue and they've got all the lights stopped and somebody is, you know, a sound guy is telling you to undo your pants and, you know, untuck and putting a microphone up, you know, you're used to all that. You've got to do it. You've got to do it. The choice is not yours. Well, we have a lot of fashion designers and people that work in fashion who listen to this show, so I'm sure we're going to get an assortment of oversized floppy bow ties sent over to the Carlisle. Just need your room number and we'll get it sorted. I'll give you everything. Hey.

I didn't mean to do it in order to reach out, but now that you mention it, I'll be accepting any offerings with delight. Now, Jeff, when you shop, where are you shopping? Online? Are you going to stores? You are so funny. I'll tell you everything that I want to hear about you guys. Me, currently, you know, I've gone through decades of obsessing over one thing or another. I wake up in the middle of the night and go, I know the T-shirt I need. And then I go and I find it and I get it in every color. Well, I was set straight about 10 years ago when Andrew Vitero joined my inner circle and we started to collaborate. deliciously on all manner of things he was there was a gq shoot in fact and he was there i started to gab away you can see i'm a little chatty especially when i'm enthusiastic about clothes and these people knew i knew i knew that they would know and so but that did i say and how about this and where should i shop here and all that so the same questions and then after a couple of days that i said hey one of you should come to my closet if you'd ever be interested and tell me what jeans to throw away, et cetera, et cetera. He volunteered, and we've been sort of working together for the last 10 years. And so here's what happened. I'm talking about in the era prior to his joining, which is me. shopping you know higgled higgled and without much education you know because really to do that you need to uh you need to be spending a lot of time looking at everything and knowing everything i still know nothing but with him on the team first of all we we slowly but completely redid my closet i don't think i have a single article that was there before he started And he's very we're very careful about what to buy. I don't just do, you know, search, you know, the development and research and just get things that I then will are sure to throw away. I still give away a lot of prune things out like I alluded to with the glasses. But it's only after being selective to pull the trigger on. So anyway, he tells me, you know, kind of where we might.

do our best shopping. And, you know, Prada has been very nice to me. Mrs. Prada, I happen to know. I don't want to brag, but she's a big, she's a superstar and a fantastic person, and she's been very generous, and I've done a little work with them. And who, Jonathan Anderson, he was at Lueve, and I would shop it around there. Hey, I'm wearing, right now, they can't see at home, but you can see this Miu Miu little jacket that I purchased recently, and I'm a little independent now sometimes of Andrew Vitero, although he was on FaceTime, actually. And I sent him pictures. I said, hey, I'm in here in Florence, Italy, where we've been spending a lot of time. And I said, hey, I'm going to try on two jackets. What do you think? And this and a couple other colors. He said the brown one like this. So he kind of said that. If he's not there physically, he's there with you spiritually and digitally. Exactly. He really is. But then this hat, this Borsolino hat, I went to the Borsolino store in Florence, Italy. I tried on a bunch of things, took some pictures, and we wound up with this, which is now my go-to favorite hat. You know, this and that. I'm wearing a pair of shoes. Oh, I wish I could be more flexible. There. There you see something. And that is my first, besides costumes, whether it's Milena Cananero on Wes Anderson movies or Broadway shows or Paul Taswell on Wicked, who won the Oscar for that. He made some boots for me for The Wizard and Milena, you know, makes everything. But in my personal life, I have not had a bespoke pair of handmade shoes. But if you're in Florence, Italy. If you're not going to get it there, that's that's the time. That's the place. And so I happened into a place a couple of blocks from where we are, who said, hey, this is where Daniel Day Lewis learned how to make shoes when he was off from acting for a little bit. And anyway, they made me this pair of shoes. And when I go home next time in a couple of weeks back to Florence, waiting for me is the next pair that I ordered. It's I don't want to spoil the surprise, but it is an oxblood.

cordovan, bordeaux colored, you know, kind of thing, as you've seen some shoes. I don't have any like that now. And it's a wingtip. So that's being cooked up. Because once you are measured, then you're locked in. So unfortunately, you just can send a few emails and the shoes are getting made. Yes. And the credit card's getting charged, more importantly. Yes. More than happy to have the credit card charged for a bespoke pair of shoes that fit your foot perfectly. We have to keep our artisans in business. That's important. Well, Florence, that's the place. You see, it's so delightful to walk down any street, which is a jewel box of a postcard. And you see these people working like they do, these artisans. And in this shop that I go to, there are these couple of women who are making shoes there just themselves. And what you're talking about is the last, is that wooden thing that they make exactly to your foot after they've done all kinds of measurements. And now that they have that, yes, it's a little less expensive, now that you brought it up, to have the second because they've already got the last. You got that out of the way. And compared to some other places I checked out, they're kind of... modestly christ so i'm happy about that anyway that's all an answer to where am i well uh to go back you were talking on the subject of closet edits and miss prada do we still have the flame shirt in the closet or has that one gone to the real real yet jeff good eye hey they gave me a bunch of for for um for another cycle of band touring they induced me they allowed me to introduce uh several of those shirts that i think are quite brilliant and the answer to your question is not only did i wear them happily but i have have them they they're very generous and they gave me a bunch of stuff let me say something jeff let me say something jeff you and that flame prodder shirt influenced a lot of people who can't rock the flame prodder shirt to try and for that you for that you were guilty but i'm gonna today we're gonna let you off with just a slap you're in the penalty box five minutes that's it

Oh, that's very funny. Yes, you're right. One size doesn't fit all, and certain ideas are not right for everybody. I have my limitations, certainly. We all learn that, some the hard way, some the easier way. So now that you're in Florence... Do you feel like you've figured out the toll roads? Because I'm still getting text in Italian about how my account is in collections from a toll charge from 2021. I'll tell you the whole story. It is daunting. I drive in Los Angeles, but in Florence. You know who drives? My wife, Emily. Of course, she was an Olympic athlete. She was the Pan-American champion the year she went to the Olympics for rhythmic gymnastics. She still has the soul and the musculature and the nervous system of a world-class athlete. Okay, Jeff. It comes in handy as somebody who has to spend time with me and take care of our kids and learning tennis and doing all kinds of things. You can't imagine. She's a champion and she drives. She's intrepid and very skillful and nimble. And there are many things we could talk about, about not only the tolls, but the particular streets, the width of the streets and the sidewalks and the pedestrian traffic that's kind of different. And, of course, these days, everybody's on their devices. Tourists, I have those devices. Don't get me started on that. And we can talk all about that. But she drives and she knows the ins and outs of the one-way streets that change every couple of days and all those. So she does it. And I sit in the passenger seat and put the seat back as far as it can go without crushing my kids' legs in the back. That's a nice way to do it. Florence is very, very charming, but it also seems like a place I wouldn't want to drive. But you need to get out of town sometimes. Yeah, well, we get around. located there, one finds themselves, especially with Emily Goldblum, getting things scheduled every weekend. You're two hours away from dozens of world-class destinations. That's exactly right. As a matter of fact, we're going to, after I finish this little endeavor here in New York City, we're at the Carlisle Hotel this week, and then the Bowery, and we've got our books.

sign in our record signing you know at barnes and noble that's tomorrow you know and i go on the seth myers show on monday then i take off right from the seth myers show uh having already checked out of the hotel to the airport and go to rome italy where we where i'm going to meet emily there because she's right now there with the kids in florence she will meet me in rome because we have some dinner with art people she's an art We like art, and we know some of these people who are in the art world. Anyway, we're going there with some friends. It's a very friendly city, Florence. I've noticed that. It's a friendly city. It's a friendly place. It sure is. And then from there, we go to Portofino. where I had been once, because our band plays the reopening of the Splendido Hotel, for those who may know that. That was Greek to me until recently, until we were booked there, but it's apparently quite the place. And then she and I take off to a place we've never been to. I hate to brag, maybe this is making you less relatable, but there you go. I apologize to anybody who finds this unattractive, but then she and I are going off to... Capri or Capri, however you say it. And I've never, neither of us have been there. And you know who we know, just to brag some more, are the couple whose family built the, what's it called? It has a name, but it's that house that was used in the Jean-Luc Godard movie called Contempt. With Jack Palance and Brigitte Bardot. Oh, it's called Casa Malaparte. Exactly. Malaparte. And so we know those people. And so we're going to visit that house. You know, you can only get there by boat. That's the one where the outside of the house is a big staircase that you go up. You know, I knew I was talking to the right people. So, Jeff, hold on. When you're on holiday and you've got these little stinkers running around, you've got your wife there.

What are you doing? Are you trying to read? Are you trying to play Wordle? What are we doing? You're so funny. Well, we love to bond with each other and the kids because they're in school and stuff. How old are these kids, Jeff? Sorry, how old are the kids? Eight and nine. Okay, okay. Yeah, two boys. You know, we rent a keyboard if we can because we don't want them to miss, and I don't want to miss out on my daily practice, and I help them with their daily practice. They were recently on stage with us at the Palladium. in london they came and they played their pieces that they were working on flight of the bumblebee and the theme song james bond the audience went crazy and they had a good time so they but they're serious you know or at least we're serious about still you know exposing them to the possibility of making this part of their life and they're playing so we do that uh which they give us they are sometimes more reluctant on vacation especially they're like we're here why do we have to keep doing this etc etc and then and then if we get through that um There's games galore. They are nothing if not playful, as I am, and they have card games. We have different kind of cards. You know what they love now? Monopoly. They love to play Monopoly, and they're very good. I never considered myself. I played it, but I don't get thrilled about being a mogul or a tycoon. A slumlord? You're no slumlord, Jeff. Jeff, don't take this the wrong way, but maybe you should cheat a little bit. You know what I mean? Just kind of remind those guys who's boss. Well, that is funny you should mention that. No, I'm strictly against that. And they, you know, they think it's as many kids do. And I thought for a big part of my life it was cute to cheat. That's when you're wrong, children. It is not cute to cheat. It is not. I say it ruins everything, and I try to model the non-cheating for them and catch them whenever I can and tell them why it ruins all the fun. Dad, why did you install these cameras in our rental house? I don't know. I don't understand. No, no, no. I'm no spy. But you know who hipped me to that is Joveth Williams in the cast of The Big Chill.

We were all ensconced in, you know, South Carolina. And we used to get together and play because we were all in the same compound, play charades a lot. And I thought it was cute at that point. I was like, what, 30 years old. Still at that point, though, I was kind of where nobody was looking. I thought, oh, it's cute. I hope somebody catches me. Maybe they'll think this is funny of me looking at the clues. She got so mad when she caught me and embarrassed me to my core. I burned with shame. And ever since then. I have never cheated on a game. What do you think of that? You got a real bop on the nose. That's a strong lesson. You'll listen forever. It's a strong lesson. Yes, a bop on the nose. She broke my nose. It's crooked. I'm still in recovery. Okay, that's good. I mean, it's a great lesson. Well, I guess speaking of wandering around, well, actually, first before this question, when you go to Rome, what's the one spot you go to to get your pasta? Oh, well, I love to talk about food, but I'm no, I don't know. I don't know the places. And, you know, I'm sure there's so many. I mean, I guess one correct answer is, you know, any place you happen to, you know, sit down. I'm easy to please. And, you know, but let me see. But in Florence, there's a couple of places, you know, even Stanley Tucci said Dalla Lola. which is right around the corner from our house, we go to, and Camillo is very nice. Camillo is what I was going to say. They reopened, right? Were they closed for a little while? Well... Maybe not. Hey, you know, I didn't know. So you've spent a bunch of time there, really. You know it. I've been to Pity a couple times. Not like, I've been to Pity Womo, like the fashion, a couple times, but not like, I haven't spent that much time there. You see, but Camillo, yeah, people know, you know who I, not to drop names, but Wes Anderson said, hey, where should I go? You now know Florence better than I do. We turned him on to Camillo. He said, that's my favorite place there. It's a great restaurant. It's terrific. Chiara is always there at the helm, and her daughter, Matilda, has Dalla Lola. Oh, okay, I got you. Really, really good. But Rome, I don't know. Well, I'll give you a rec. My favorite spot is called Osteria da...

Z. Umberto. Okay. It's a little small. The waiters are smoking cigs while they're dropping the pasta. You're having a long kind of wine, boozy lunch. Sounds great. It's perfect. My favorite, Amatriciana. I'm going to write it down and I'm going to go there. I'll send it to Marla. I'll send her the TripAdvisor link. Don't worry. But on the subject of Tucci, now that he seems to be this kind of gourmand, jazzy guy bopping around Italy. eating the gelatos just like you. Is he sort of the Jordan to your bird now in the culinary space of daddies traveling on television? He's the bird in that he's Charlie Parker. I'm Thelonious Monk in this. Okay, you're Thelonious. He's Charlie Parker. No, I'm nothing. I'm nothing. I sit at his feet. You know who I had the thrill? I'll bet you know about him. He now passed away, sadly, but I had the privilege of talking to Jonathan Gold. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know. have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools so those future graduates can find me. And, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money.

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family, authentic food here and there. I'm from the school of Jay Gold growing up in Los Angeles as a young gourmand. I feel like I'm trying to follow in his footsteps. But also, I don't want you to besmirch Los Angeles' landscapes. There is a beautiful meme that I've seen where it's a photo of kind of the rolling hills of Florence. And it says, you know, most of Italy kind of looks like the city of Bakersfield when you really boil it down. That's so funny. Would you care to comment on that, Jeff? Well, you know, lest you misunderstand me, I think Los Angeles is very beautiful. You know, as Werner Herzog says, it's the most interesting place in America. And if you want to see a documentary that might interest you, there's one called L.A. Plays Itself. Do you know it? Oh, I've seen that, actually. I think that's really interesting. And many of these movies that are, you know, located in Los Angeles, and it kind of compares how they're depicted with the real history of Los Angeles. He's very smart. Have you lived in several different neighborhoods? In L.A., did you start off in the Valley and then hit Santa Monica and then go eat? What's the trajectory? That's funny. Well, I've been in Los Angeles more than any city in my life. I moved there long before you were born and for several decades now. And I started off in Hollywood right on Franklin near La Brea in some little apartment there and then went to sort of near Larchmont with an apartment there and then moved in with a girlfriend to Los Feliz. That was sort of nice and interesting. Women love to live in Los Feliz. Jeff, we have the same trajectory, I've got to say. I know. If I was handsomer, you could be my grandson, and we would be related. And then I did my first house in Sherman Oaks, up in the canyon near the Great Greek. And that was a funny little place. And then about 40 years ago, I got this house where I still am up in the Hollywood Hills behind the Chateau Marmont, which is getting renovated very excitingly for me. These last few years, it's going to be done this summer. The house. Your house. Yeah.

So did we do a full gut? Like how far are we going? Just a new kitchen, new bathrooms? How crazy is the renovation? I am so excited. I won't bore you with all the details or show you. If I was with you, I'd show you my phone and some videos that people are taking because we're not around there right now. So we have to rely on some videos. Here's what's happening. It's cozier than it sounds, but there's a main house that we sort of did. It's cozier than it sounds. There's several buildings on a single piece of property, and then we kind of go for that. No, no, no. Besides that, there's a so-called guest house that was a funky kind of place that somebody put up before I got there in the 70s. It remained sort of what it was until these last couple of years when Barbara Bester, who's a fantastic, if you know her, architect, in los angeles uh collaborated with us and now we're so excited about what it's becoming um yeah it's it's you know they took it down to its studs and there was a lot of foundational uh you know the hills you know it's tough up there yeah it needed yeah it needed it needed a lot of work and it's going to be no recording studio i have there's a couple of pianos in a couple of different rooms with the kids playing and me playing that i'm going to be that i think are going to be new acquisitions that i'm very very excited about um there's a there's a place where i can do these zooms like this you know because up until now i don't know what most people do But, you know, it's been catch-as-catch-can, and you jerry-rig a little, you know, backgrounder here and there. I told, I said to Barbara Bester, maybe there's a place in this room where I can have quiet. It's in the guest house, and I can set up a corner that is really, might be camera-ready and picturesque. I'm excited about that. That's nice. If you come over, come over to my house. We'll be there in the summer, and I'll show you all around. Okay. Well, I need a pool check if I'm going to come over during the summer. There's a pool. Okay. Okay. There is a pool. Yeah, there is a pool. There is a pool that I like very, very much.

Yeah, I put it in since I've been there. And I like it very much inside the pool, you know, under the water. On one of the steps going in, I put our initials, my initials with Emily's initials. There's an EJ. If you're swimming underwater, you can see the mosaic of EJ. Isn't that sweet? Damn, that's beautiful. That's very romantic. There's a lot of husbands listening to this right now who now have to do that because their wife just heard you say that. So we got to drain the thing, call the tile guy. Luckily, Jeff, our listeners probably are still not quite at the place where they're putting the pool in, but this is something for them to aspire to, and that's good. Don't say that. Our advertisers are listening, Chris. Brought to you by Rolex. I apologize about this whole thing. I know I seem like a nincompoop. No, no, no. Jeff, you're a celebrated man for decades. It would be weird if you didn't have a beautiful home in Los Angeles. We expect you to live near the chateau and not in Downey. That's baseline. There's no need to qualify anything. Well, thank you. But I'd be nothing, you know, if I hadn't gotten together with Emily, because she's the mastermind behind this, you know, I'd still be, it would be the same house. I'd be having to get the dust out of the corners and stuff. And in my refrigerator would be a takeout, one takeout. A carton of Chinese food. I can imagine a bachelor Jeff in his heyday. You know what I mean? I can imagine what that looks like. You got the TV sitting on top of the old TV. It had something like that. I'm a regular fella. Without the women in our lives, we are nothing, Jeff. All that is to say, you were mentioning you've got a beautiful woman. From a dance, gymnastic background, she probably has a great core strength. And she's also from Toronto. Chris is also married to a Canadian woman with great core strength. Do you have any tips on being married to a Canadian woman specifically? I need this, Jeff. I need this. Well... They're a temperamental bunch. Not temperamental. The opposite of temperamental. Although she's got a very particular...

It's entertaining. She makes me laugh more than anybody else. And the answer to the question is just be grateful and cherish every day that you can be in their presence and just sit at her feet and serve whatever you can do to make her life a little more pleasant because it's a great lucky miracle that we've gotten together with you. All right, Jeff, what else you got? Anything else? Where is she from? Is she from Toronto? She's from Toronto. Exactly right. Yeah. She's from Toronto where we shot the fly and, you know, where I've done this and that. Yeah, she's from Toronto and we're going to play Toronto, as a matter of fact, upcoming in our tour. I'll be back there and all her friends, you know, will hopefully be there. I wouldn't want to be your tour manager that night. Guest list is going to be a bitch, you know. That's going to be tough. What's going to be a bitch? Because my tour manager right here is yours. The guest list, you know, when wife's friends want to come, the guest list gets crazy, you know. Well, I hope so. She's a social butterfly. She has, as you can imagine, Imagine she's attracted a large group of admirers and a cohort. Sure, sure. I'd like to say the same about myself. So you're currently in the middle of doing a little run of shows at the Carlisle, which we actually did a live podcast there a couple years ago. What an amazing room. We played no music. We just had media elites come on, and we sort of made fun of them for an hour. That sounds fantastic. I wish I'd come. It's a great room, isn't it? It's unique. There's nothing like it around any part, and certainly these parts. It's so beautiful. That decoration and that mural on the wall is great, and you can still feel the presence of Bobby Short, who's there, whose picture is on the wall, and some painting of him on the wall. They now named a street outside there, Bobby Short Place. It's his 100th. He'd be 100, I think, this year. So it's just great, great to be there. And we've got a good band that's there. We've played now a couple of nights, and it's been really delightful. Okay. I had a question in terms of being in a jazz group. You're playing with your band. You know them well. How do you let them know when it's time for them to stop, quote, unquote, taking it for a walk? You know what I mean?

Let's bring it back in and kind of bring the show home. Give them a look. Is there a wink? If they've soloed too long? Basically. Well, first of all, don't go by me because these guys are virtuosos, all of them, and I can't get enough of them, and I would never, I've not once had the impulse to, well, that's enough of you, Joe Dillman or Alex Frank. That's enough of you. No, but Alex Frank is a grand, we were talking about this morning, he's our creative director, and he on stage. He does what you're talking about, sort of. He keeps an eye on the clock and the sense of show business showmanship and tells us if we need to drop a number or limit the solos or et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Somebody's keeping Jeff in line because you like it too much. You're having too much fun. You've got to leave them wanting more at the end of the show. Like I say, that Goldblum was great. I would like one more song. You've got to wait until next year, babe. That's the credo, and I hope we're living up to that. How often? OK, so are you at the point where you're like turning down acting stuff so you can go out with the fellas? Are you trying? You're just doing both. I'm doing both. And so far there haven't there hasn't been an excruciating conflict. So, you know, acting is I'm still as excited about acting as ever. And I'm getting, you know, choices more, you know, delightful than ever. I feel at the top of my form. conflicted with anything so far. And, of course, I've got that most important hat to wear. which is the father of Charlie and River and husband to Emily, and I can't shortchange that most importantly. So there's a few little plates to spin simultaneously. You're spinning. It's impressive, honestly. Well, it's like those Pac-Man games or, I don't know, whatever the kids are playing these video games these days. Yes, it gets a little harder as you go on, but that's a good problem to have. Who's the last person that made you audition?

audition wait a minute wait a minute i mean if you're in that mindset everything you do is sort of a a qualification for the next i would agree yes you know what i mean um but um uh even by your own standards but if you're talking about the literal oh i know what i'm thinking about what you triggered a thought in me i had a meeting with somebody who has a slate of movies that they're doing and this and that. And I was hoping that I would make an impact in this little meeting, even though they know my work, but I'd never met them. So it was a kind of audition of sorts. And you know what? I remembered that I liked it. I like auditioning. I used to like that idea, which is, you know, hey. Show them your stuff and let's be on the same page and both enjoy our passion for trying to solve this thing together and see if I can serve any purpose in helping you solve your situation. And I like it. I like a kind of thing like that. And if I start a movie and I haven't auditioned or there hasn't been a table read, I like to get together with a director anyway if I can. And show them all my stuff. And I go, hey, if I'm on the wrong page, this is what I'm thinking. So tell me now. Replace me now. Or set me right and let's start working together. I like that kind of thing. Sounds like EJ taught you some communication skills. I like that. Who? EJ? Your wife? Oh, EG. EG. Oh, you said EJ. Oh, that's right. Well, no, you're thinking of the mosaic at the bottom. E is her, J is me. But she is Emily Goldblum. So Emily took your last name is what I was getting at. You're thinking about the mosaic at my pool. She'd take my last name. She was Livingston before that. But she took my name, even though she's quite progressive and modern. I'd take your name, too, Jeff. I'd take your name, too. Depending on where I'm trying to get a dinner reservation. You know what I mean? It probably comes in handy. Oh, well, I don't know about that. But Chris Black, Chris Black.

Chris Goldblum. You know, actually, my name isn't Goldblum. My grandfather from Russia was named Kovarczyk, and he changed it to Goldblum when he came to our fair land here. But Chris Black, you know, come on, Chris Black. You know Jack Black? Sure. I know of him. We're not personally friends, yeah. I would say that Jack Black is too on the nose, and Chris Black is kind of the perfect expression of that idea. I'm biased, obviously, but I have to be honest with you. Black is a great, great last name, as is Stewart. Jason Stewart, you're not related to John Stewart, are you? No, sadly I'm not. I used to tell people Rod Stewart was my uncle when I was a small child, when they were too young to really be able to fact-check it or not. I like Rod Stewart. We used to be handled by the same manager, Arnold Stiefel. I think he's probably still managed by Arnold Stiefel. And you know who worked for Arnold Stiefel when I was with Arnold early on was Tina Sinatra. She was my, who's the daughter of Frank, she was my agent for a while, and we're still in touch with her. I'm crazy about her. I'm reading this two-volume book on Frank Sinatra, and I have now many questions if I can pester her with them. How about I just talk to you for one second? I have some follow-ups I would like to ask. That's great. It's nice when somebody, so you were working with her, what, in the 80s or 90s or something? Yeah, more even like the 70s. Oh, okay. So Frank Sinatra's daughter is making you reservations at the Ivy or wherever it might be. Well, she was trying to get me jobs. She was an agent, and I didn't care about getting in any restaurants. I just wanted to be an agent. My agent before that was Abby Gressler, who had handled Martin and Lewis. He was old by that time. And he said, oh, you should call the – that's when hardly anything was going on for me. You should call the office every day. And check in. You call us. And there was this lady receptionist. You call us. And I'd say, hello, this is Jeff Goldblum. And before I finished, Goldblum should go, hold on. No one was super excited to hear from you is what you're saying. He was not super excited. Tina Sinatra was a step up. She was great. Speaking of names, Tina Sinatra is powerful. That is a powerful name. Are you kidding? Tina Sinatra. Well, Sinatra.

And Tina. Oh, Tina's great. She's great. And, of course, his other daughter, Nancy. These boots are made for walking. Or something stupid. And then we wind up saying something stupid like, I love you. Oh, boy. I guess when you're going to come back to Los Angeles after your summer in Italy, what is the first? food or restaurant or meal that you're craving when you get back into town into los angeles well you have it except you have mixed up we spend most of our school year because the kids are in school in italy and then in summers we come back to los angeles so okay I'm excited about coming to Los Angeles. Let me see. You know, because whenever I go travel in Europe or Asia, there's certain, like, Mexican food is one for me where I'm unable to really get it, maybe in Molta Pucciana, where it's up to my standards. But when I get back to L.A., I can go and get that. You know what I mean? I get very excited about getting back to L.A. or here in New York. But L.A., because in Florence, it's very nice. But, yes, all the restaurants are mostly Italian. As they should be. Yeah, as it should be. But foods of many lands in Los Angeles and in America, of course, yes, Mexican food. Closer you get to Mexico, the better it is. Los Angeles, very, very good. Sushi, I like Japanese food. And certainly L.A. has some, what's that place that I just discovered on La Cienega? Wait a minute, sushi food. Fumi. Fumi. Sushi Fumi. Sushi Fumi. I went there once, sat at the sushi bar with my kids because the line starts at 530 when they open. The line is no joke. I got there about 515 and was the first in line I got. I got in the sushi bar. Hey, that was good. I'm not going back there. I mean, there are many places for sushi in Los Angeles, but that was pretty good. Parking is a little tough, Jeff, I'm going to be honest with you. You know, just right there in La Cienega, it's kind of... What, parking? Yeah, you know, it's just a little... I know what you mean. I get bugged by the unavailability of parking. So sometimes I've gone to restaurants, I go, well, I wanted to go here, but...

I'll be darned if I can't find a place, I'm going to go someplace else. You're going to turn it around. Yeah, I think that all the time, what it must have been like driving around Los Angeles in the 70s when there was a few hundred million less people and just less cars and the roads were free and open and there wasn't just 10 hours to go from LAX to the east side. How amazing did that feel? It was amazing, although I'm not the best person to ask. You know, I wish I had my fingers on the overview, the high-altitude view of everything that was going on then. But, you know, my part of the elephant, you know, me feeling the trunk, you know, I anecdotally, yes, I could. It was a little different. And, of course, they didn't have what I love now is a GPS. There are many pitfalls to the new technology, as you know, which we could talk about. But I like the used to have used to have to have that Thomas guide. And I was never a good map reader. And I was terrible. You do roll down the window where which way is the beach and which way is, you know, are we close? Because another bugaboo of mine, you come to intersections and there's no sign you go. Hey, you have to turn on, you know, motor. But you've passed streets, and there's no sign. I might have passed it already, but the GPS, you know, the guy talking to you solves all of that. But it was better with less traffic. That's certainly true. Yes, and parking. But there's something romantic about rolling your window down and saying, hey, which way is the beach? And they point that direction, and that's the direction you go, and you keep driving until you see the beach, and you say, we're at the beach. Maybe you go to a shitty beach. Maybe you go to the best beach you've never been to. But that's what you did. And nowadays, it's like, okay, I planned that thing, and we're 37 minutes away, and I found the parking lot here, and then we're going to go to lunch here. That's the type of stuff that I feel like we're a little too wound up in now. I don't need help getting dumber. I'm doing that all on my own. But the phone seems to be assisting, holding my hand through that rigorous process. Well, I'm of two minds. I agree with you, Chris Black. That was my original point, that I'm very happy to be helped in all these ways, because I have a terrible sense of direction, and I really need all the help I can get. But I know what you're talking about, Jason Stewart, in that...

I do like the less result-oriented approach to life. And meandering approach. Let's see where our adventure leads us. And maybe mistakes. There's no mistake. They're all happy accidents. But how many, like right now, I feel like you're not getting too many days off. Is that fair to say? Yes. I have to be very economical with my energies these days. form. You are double fisting smoothies right now, and we'll get into your peptide plan later on at the end of the show. Yeah, I want to know how many shots you're giving yourself at the Carlisle before you hit the stage. Shots of what? You tell me, Jeff. I mean, because you're, you know, you're 72. You're in better shape, healthier, better looking than most men half of your age. I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass. It's an objective fact. Yeah, that's objective. So that leads me to ask the question, how long have you been... taking peptides for and could you share the names and kind of milligram amounts please because i'm not i'm not falling for the my skincare routine shit with you either don't try that i'll tell you everything i'll tell you everything that i'm doing but of course we all fail at some point we're coming and going very quickly um but you know i'm trying to make the most and and as per your original question you know yes my calendar my days are full and i still have to i'm very careful about making the most of them and that is to say i i go to sleep and try to get my sleep um and then i try to eat whatever i whatever joe bagg says because he's our band's nutritionist whatever he says is the latest you know uh miracle uh food and uh like that of course emily has a has has her own views on that and so uh you know i wind up doing what i can and then i work out there's a nice even on the road i like to work out daily and and do things and what's the routine look what's the routine looking like body weight what are we doing running yeah what are you going to do down at the carlisle gym after this here's what i do i know that gym pretty well because i've stayed there before on an extended little period and i i had to remind myself what what do they have a gym here oh yeah this place yes i know that place uh i've been there the last few days steadily uh it's very you know um adequate you can do all the things that i do and i do a quick kind of

which involves a little cardio on the treadmill and the rowing machine a little bit, which they have, and then a circuit of all the body parts to get into the nuts and bolts of this. I used to, during a certain period, do leg day and then chest and back day all the time. I don't do that anymore. I just make sure that I get everything done, and I don't have all the time in the world, so I do a... you know, focused version of it. Excuse me if I missed something, but was there ever a role that you had to get absolutely jacked for or no? Well... Not like I see The Rock, but he was already jacked for this next wrestler role. Yeah, I get it. His life, he's prepared for life looking like that. He certainly did. Well, for the fly, I did. That's around the time I had just started to really kind of get excited at the gym. You spent a lot of time with your shirt off on the fly. Yeah, I apologize. I did. And then I brought my weights to the – I used to travel with my weights here and there. And even on a vacation, I would bring these heavy – weights and i'd do that and a bag of carrots and a juicer because i thought that was my you know current um experiment but yeah weights and on the fly i remember being in the dressing room and doing things before the yeah yeah yeah yeah gotta get a pump gotta get you gotta get a pump before the camera turns on well as that you know back then i you know as as much as i could and you know so uh There we go. It has changed, though. It has changed. These guys have to get like, they literally look like they're chiseled from rock. You know, it's very different. It's not achievable for laypersons like us. Yeah, I know. Me and Jason. You could figure it out. No, look at you, Jason. The listening audience can't tell, but Jason, you're wearing a wife beater. I think it's still improper to call that. You're showing off all manner of those shoulders and those guns. Wow. You're in good shape. Jeff, don't lie, tired listeners. Jason's bird chest is on full display here. We call him Big Bird. Well, Chris is the workout person of the two of us, but I've been doing some working out at home, not on the level of what Chris is doing. He keeps a very strict diet, and I'm sort of the more boo.

boozehound, druggie, gourmand of the show. Interesting to know. I'm sure you picked that up. But despite all of that, my body is looking good, isn't it? It looks fantastic. I'm eager to let your listening. Jason, I agree. I'm not saying it doesn't look good. I'm just saying we've got to call a spade a spade. That's all I'm saying. I like it. I like what you've done with the place. So what about, I mean, because you have access to things, I don't want you to tell me, you know, whatever exactly you're taking, but, you know, supplements, potions, powders, a little this, a little bit of that, anything that you found is really working for you, just like regular guy, glass of water, glass of OJ. I'm more a regular guy at this point. The things that I'm doing are not to, you know, distort myself into something superior. I couldn't achieve now. Anyway, it's just... You know, but everyone's getting a little help nowadays in the biz, you know? Yeah, not me. I don't believe in juicing. I'm not juicing. Never did. I feel like you're the kind of guy who washed his face with bar soap until five years ago and it just worked out for you. That's what I feel like. That feels like you're... I have. First of all, yes, I would wash my face with a bar of soap, whichever I found. I like a nice cake of soap, by the way, instead of the squirty things. But I'll just wash my face twice a day in the morning. But recently, I'll be darned if Emily didn't find this facial because she has 24 steps in her nightly regime. She's got many things. So, you know, she said, hey, you should. I went to this facialist. Recently, Sarah Chapman in. uh london and she gave me a couple of products and she says i told her about the soap the bar so she said well if i could talk you into just a couple of these things i think it because i never wore sunblock either which my wife and my kids are going dad that i wear sunblock they try to put it on me i was kind of resistant not even not your kids they're working against you too well yeah sunscreens in everybody's pocket because they have to do it so they'd start to gang up on me too but sarah said sarah said here let me give you this and just see if you can put

this thing on and this little so i'm using a couple of things now that i'm enjoying you know um so there's there's that and then food wise i do pride myself on my oral regime okay i get my teeth cleaned a few times a year and my flossing is better than ever my brushing is better than ever and so i'm very happy about that okay do you use a floss stick or do you use the string I use the string, but more like I wouldn't call it a string. I'd call it the, what's it called? The, you know, the tape, the Dento tape more. It's a coconut brand that is good, doesn't break. I hate it when it breaks and it's good. I can do it very quickly, but I think effectively too. And I've never had a cavity or a filling and the cleaner. Every few times a year says you're doing very well, very well. Sometimes, as you know, they like to wrap you on the knuckles and go, you need to do this a little more and watch for this. But I get good grades from them. And then food-wise, just health-wise, these days, for one reason or another, I've given up. meat and poultry. I'm on fish and no dairy, just, you know, oat milk and this and that and egg whites. And, you know, I've gone through different cycles like I alluded to before about experimenting with one thing or another. But now that's my thing. But I'm easy to please. There are many good ways. And I'm, in fact, happier. My kids are like. cave people and they like a bone and they like to get it and chew and and disappear anything from and take apart a lobster or something like that me i like i don't like to do any surgery i don't like any homework i want to either a meatball or something or i don't want any evidence of animal skin or tendons or anything so i'm very happy eating you know, some fish. I would say you and Chris have very, very similar eating habits, and I've always personally believed that the healthiest diet a human can have is being vegan, but you eat seafood. Well, that's what I'm on now, and this isn't just because of my research, although, you know, that's not a bad thing to do, but I really do like trusting in the experts. I trust...

science i trust in doctors because i've got some good ones and if they say here's what you should be eating for cholesterol or whatever one thing or another that's what i do and i'm a very good boy and a good patient and so i adhere to that even the doctor says you know you can cheat here don't go crazy with it but i adhere to it very um Judiciously. You learned a long time ago never to cheat, Jeff, especially with your own diet. There you go. Jo Beth Williams, I owe her everything. Wow, I like that. So you said cheat day. I don't know her. That's how you get to the next level. You don't know who. You don't know the cheat day. You don't. Cheat day. Cheat day. Somebody's like, what's your cheat day? And you're like, I'm sorry, I've never heard that phrase before. Is that something that people do? Cheat day. I like how you gave it a feminine. I didn't know cheat day was. Well, it's how the kids are talking nowadays. It's kind of the kids are talking. I don't know her that cheat day. No, I think it's. Yeah, I've read articles about that recently. No, it's. But that's always felt to me. My instinct has always been, hey, if you're working out hard or you're doing this other stuff, why. You know, why undermine it with a cheat day? Is it so much fun? Although I like if I see a piece of pizza or a dessert, I'll take I can listen to this. I don't mean to brag. I can take one bite of something. Oh, fuck you. I know. I know. I apologize again. I can do it. How good does it feel to take the bite of this sought after pastry item or the Sicilian slice that Nona has worked all day? One bite. Straight into the trash can. How good does that feel? It's a religious ecstasy because when you deprive yourself, when you know that you can only have so much. You enjoy it more, somewhat, potentially. Don't you think so? Jeff, I don't think I've ever had dessert that I didn't finish in my entire life. Like, I really think that is, this is, you're aspirational in many ways, but this is really. That's how we're going to lose that last five, Chris. That's how we're going to lose that last five. And I'll tell you, I had a quirk of psychology such that, I've never told anybody this, but when I go to restaurants, when I have gone to restaurants, I have usually felt, oh, they're really going to think I didn't like it unless I finish the whole plate.

Oh. So, you know, but now with this porch control, I'm still trying to do it. I'm still trying to remind myself, you know, you can order it. I don't want to be wasteful, but you don't have to eat everything. You can eat a little bit of it. And also you can, you know, if you are afraid of being rude to the chef, you can say like, oh, let me just get this to go. It's so good. I want to enjoy it tomorrow. And then you get paparazzi with the for Charles bag. The meal's free. And then you can throw it away at the Carlisle when you get home. Nobody's the wiser. Everybody wins. Everybody wins. That's what I'm happy with. Jeff, as we're wrapping up, when's the last time you took a doggy bag, though? This is a hot debate because I've never taken a doggy bag. I think it's embarrassing. I often take a doggy bag. The last time was, you know, in this last week. I went to a Chinese restaurant. They gave me I didn't eat everything. There was a big portion of. cabbage, spicy cabbage. I had to get that back to the hotel room. Yeah, and fish. You know, I put it in the refrigerator. Hey, I think I dug into it after it was in the mini bar for half a day. Peanut M&Ms can only go so far. You know what I mean? Come home after a long day, walking around the town, get a nice handful of spicy cabbage in the mini fridge, set you straight. It's like a bag of chips for some people. Move these peanut M&Ms out of here. I've got some cabbage dying on the line. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Jesus. Great for the gut health as well. Great for the gut health. God help. Okay, Jeff. Well, so the record, Jeff Goldblum and the Mildred Schnitzer Orchestra, the album is out now and you're playing shows. And it's jazzy. And you've got some great collaborators on this record, huh? Ariana Grande, Cynthia Erivo, Scarlett Johansson, Maya Sykes, all are fantastic musicians. Yes, I think it is a lovely piece. I'm quite proud of it. And very happy to be, you know, tooting my own horn, banging the drum to, you know, get the word out. I also really, I will say, I love the artwork for it. You know, people will try to do like a vintage 70s kind of feel.

and it you could tell that uh you know it's not quite there but the artwork for this looks like a legitimate album that you'd see you know in the dollar bin shopping at amoeba you know some old 70s jazz records it's perfectly done thank you so much i'm glad you you uh like it we spent time on that and uh brain dead my friend kyle who makes really yes do you know kyle and yeah well he's uh you know he's taken over he curates his places with the old silent movie theater on fairfax yes yeah and now their store he he knows movies in fact i think this last month he asked me to curate their month-long calendar of movies, which I did. He's fantastic, a great friend, and he and his graphic arts people. very generously uh cooked that up and we're very happy to have that on the album my sister who's a great painter did some stuff on the inner sleeve a picture of me and then some of our merch so-called uh you know is uh has you know some their work you got the nice little uh little sparrow flying there on the on the on the shirt of your merch maybe it's a sparrow i don't know yeah yeah yeah that's all uh brain you got the jg really funny okay beautiful well done kyle well done bravo Yeah. Nice to see them expanding out of the streetwear and into the fine arts with Jeff like this. Let's ring them in. Thank you for taking the time to chat with us. What a treat. What a pleasure. My treat, pleasure entirely. That hour went by like five minutes. I wish I could hang out with you guys at length. And there we go. Thank you so much. We'll see you soon, Jeff. We appreciate it.