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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? We are really, really back in this thing. I am coming to you from Miami. It's been a... How are you, Jason? I'm great. Had our friend of the show, David Brandon Geating, DBG, came over to the crib yesterday and we made some dinner. Does he ever refer to himself as DB? Or is that a you thing? We actually discussed it last night. I like it. Because he has a name with three names, but it doesn't flow. as well as some other three names do. You know what I mean? Sarah Jessica Parker, sure. Haley Joel Osment, Sarah Jessica Parker. So it's not bad, but it's not as sing-songy and beautiful as it could be. So he said sometimes people will call him DBG. I like it. It sounds like a conglomerate in a good way. I agree. But we also discussed that typically I will call anybody. anything but their first name except for maybe you huh yeah actually i guess like everyone everyone has everyone like ever since i was a kid we either call you by your nickname or your last name first yeah yeah there's some of that i think i'm a little more formal just my approach the way i like all of my my capitalization and punctuation i think that might reflect your ass has a stick up its ass

if i need to get your attention from across the street i just can't i just can't yell the word black over and over again that's a great point it just wouldn't work that's a great point that's a great but like our like our friend growing up my brother and i um his last name was ramsey so like just calling somebody ramsey it's just it has like a very like 90s like dude where's my car college movie very much very much very much but it does it does It does flow nicely. Yeah, so we made some chicken. I made some oven fries. Carolyn made a beautiful Greek salad. We enjoyed some wines from Mayor Hawthorne. He has a wine and vinyl mail order service where he sends you wine. And a record that pairs with it had a little Roy Ayers. Oh, this motherfucker. He said, I'm going to combine my interests, is what he said. Yeah, the Roy Ayers. Everybody love the sunshine. Such a great cover. Paired with a skin contact orange and the wine we drank last night is actually good. Well, it's great. It's the type of wine that I would buy and enjoy even if it wasn't connected to a friend's brand. Cool idea. That's cool because I feel like I haven't heard you drink wine lately. You know what I mean? I haven't. I haven't been drinking wine. When I'm out with you, you're drinking, of course, but you're having an ice-cold beer or maybe a martini. wine has taken a backseat yeah i think a lot of it is the value prop on it where you look at you look at the wine list and there's 700 bottles and then you look at the wines per glass and you know they're 17 to 38 dollars depending you might like it you might not and then the vodka martini or the gin martini is always there it's always The same price, if not cheaper. And it's going to be two and a half shots of alcohol, cold. You know what it is. You know what it's going to do. It's simply value prop. Versus like, oh, I just spent $24 on this chuggable red. That's not as chuggable as they claimed it to be. It's actually, you lied. This isn't actually that chug. I went to a cellar and no one was chugging. Last night.

Ryland and I went to a restaurant in St. Augustine. St. Augustine, by the way, if you've never been, is one of the most charming places I've ever... I loved it. It was amazing. Never been. Where is it in relation to the rest of Florida? Not Panhandle, but it's four and a half hours from Miami. We went to this restaurant that was good. It was called Fish Camp. Our friend Garrett met us there, who lives in St. Augustine. We were at the bar. I had moved my chair back a little bit to cross my legs after my meal was done for a more comfortable seat. And so I didn't realize this, but there was kind of like a pillar behind me. So I was making a sort of bottleneck situation for people to get through. You know what I mean? You created a dam for this river. I created a dam and something happened to me that hasn't happened to me in a long time. let's say, quote-unquote wife, was walking by, he bumped me with his belly and he said, oh, well, that wasn't gay at all. And I was just like, what? And I was like, you brushed by me at a restaurant, dude? Like, what do you mean? And I was like, I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida. Well, I think it's because to you, you just felt something brush against you. It could have been a human. It could have been a menu. It could have been a napkin. It could have been a bald eagle. But for him, he felt the tickle on his fat, soft, white skin belly. And that made him feel odd because you, a man with tats, facial hair, and a known criminal history, having dinner with another man, same age. We're just friends, I promise. So he's already looking at... We've got a couple of queers over here having their snow crab omelet or whatever at the fish camp. And then he's like, oh, no, I touched a gay guy with a part of my body that I shouldn't have touched him with. It's so close to my penis. That's kind of – shockingly, I think you might be right. I think that level – It was a long way to get there, but we got there. Saying something like that to a complete stranger in a restaurant is something that I can't even wrap my –

little head around it feels very bygone it's it feels i mean because like because you hear other other it has like um like an ace ventura kind of energy like oh that just happened or very much awkward like it has some of that energy but that wasn't gay takes me straight back to like yeah i just or something like that i couldn't believe it this guy was 60 years old you know what i mean it was like this there's like no excuse for it it was crazy it was crazy how fat was he How was his belly? It wasn't. I mean, he wasn't like. Describe his belly. He didn't need a wheelchair, but he could lose 50. I mean, you know. 50. Yeah, he could probably. Was there polo shirt cleavage under belly coming out? You know what I mean? Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Carolyn and I talk about this. When you see a fat guy, the belly will be coming up underneath it, especially if you're on a plane. It's like Imrata in a bikini kind of thing. Right. That's a good example because. In your mind, you're like, so you know that you have a giant body. Why aren't you wearing a shirt that's big enough to cover what needs to be covered? And then my argument is, like, he just likes how his body looks. And, like, regardless of how obese you are, some people just look better in a shirt that's a little more form-fitting. Sometimes a fat guy looks better with a short shirt. And then that underbelly cleavage is just, like, they might have, like. nice shoulders and they might have a nice bust they want to show those off they want to show they want to show up he was he was wearing a polo it was tucked in safely and belted you know what i mean so it was secure but i i appreciate you asking because i'm familiar with what you're talking about these are just the questions that have to be asked but um yeah we were talking about at dinner last night i wanted to oh he david mentioned a phrase and i was like sorry i have to just write that down i have no story or reason to bring it up but i just wanted to bring it up he was we're talking about um like seeing like natural path kind of eastern medicine people not because anyone is sick or anything like that but just like you know like reading your chi and and people telling you like you should be having more zinc and blah blah blah and then he he learned that he has a

he now has a quote-unquote rock star immune system. And he said that phrase in a very straight-faced, just as if he was saying any other phrase, and I had to stop him and be like, there's something there. I would love to have a rock star immune system. That is cool as hell. That is so cool. I think you could get there. I think the secret is not to get into an Azalea Banks kind of witch doctor bag, but having those... herbs and spices every single day having the wellness formula every day regardless of if you're sick is how you keep your rock star immune system going it's no that's a great i i thought it was just juice but you're right i need some herbs you need herbs man quote unquote you need you need a turmeric tea true um what else we got so yeah so you're so now you're in miami and then what tomorrow and saturday you're gonna go hit the paddock I think, yeah, I guess we're going to hang out with the driver too, George, who's like the Mercedes driver. We're going to get to build with him. Yeah, I don't know when. I think we go. Yeah, there's stuff. I'm actually going to see Steph tomorrow. Okay. She's taking us on a boat for dinner, which is nice. Wait, wait, wait. You're going to take a boat to the restaurant or are you going to dine on the boat? She's picking us up in the boat, on the boat. It's like a taxi, but it's a boat. We get on the boat, and then there's going to be a meal on the boat as the sun sets. Do you think she's finally going to propose? Because this feels very... Yeah, it really does sound like it. So I know you don't like champagne, but I think it's going to be like six or seven of us, but I'm pretty excited. I've never been picked up in a boat before, which feels like a miss. It does feel like a miss. And that is how you get into the upper echelon of Miami when you're simply using the water channels because the traffic... notoriously going over those bridges in and out of downtown and so awful down into the beach area it's so fucked but you just see everyone's house has a dock in the backyard and just come on in come on through but yeah and then i got a gun i got coke the race the race is sunday so i there's like preliminary shit but then the actual race is sunday but rylan told me that we're our like area is i guess around

turn five which is a high probability for crash if something's going to crash so we're in a good spot for some action which is nice i wonder as like somebody like you who's not as involved in f1 you might want to see a crash more than others just so you can see something exciting versus zoom zoom zoom but i wonder as a as a real f1 lover if you don't want to see the crash no i think is it is it truly heartbreaking or is it sick I think it is if it's your driver, but I think otherwise it adds intrigue and kind of chance to, to the, you know, changes the whole thing pretty quickly. Yeah. So I think it's exciting if you're just like a head brings you back down. Yeah. I feel like the last episode with, with John Buscemi, we were talking about golf so much that golf, all the golf heads who listened to the show have been in my DM so much. And I feel like next week. F1 homies are going to come out of the woodworks. They're everywhere. And we are going to have a big fall. We're basically barstooling now. No. What is the next sport that we, because I don't watch any of this shit. Hold on. I'll course correct next week. Let me look at the, let me look at the calendar. Just make sure we got, let's just make sure. Cause you know, I want to make sure our thing is variety. Oh yeah, we're good. Oh yeah. We're all over the place next week. We're all over the place this month for God's sakes. Yeah. I need to talk to people who don't even know that you can race cars. let alone what the driver's names are. What do you mean car? Yeah, next week, two people who are probably not into sports. No, definitely not. No, definitely not. All right, well, we did talk. Yeah, this is going to be a good lineup in the next few weeks. Twisted little week. I guess that's about it. Carolyn is going to go to Australia tomorrow, and TJ is home alone. Uh-oh. Mm-hmm. You don't do well with that. I do a little too well, and then it goes bad is usually what happens. Okay, but this is going to be an extendo. Maybe a week, week and a half. Just me and the dogs. Congratulations, brother. Give those dogs to a sitter and go live some life. I'm strongly considering that. It's not a bad idea. I wanted you to come to New York, but I understand that's a whole thing. I was going to, but I realized I should have planned it months ago versus a week in advance to fly to New York during Met Gala. That's going to be tough. They're going to bend you over.

The sensual sports going all the way in, man. They're going to take me for what I got. All my little pluggies are going to reply LOL on my little email. Hey, I'm in your city. When I hit you for Coachella tickets. Oh, that's cute. You're crazy. Oh, week one. Wow, yeah. I might be at the no-leason. I'm going to have to take a bus to New York for Met Gala. That'd be sick. That'd be good for you. Humble you. It kind of gets you back to your roots. You can make some beats on the bus. On the road. on the road part two we have a guest say uh amine is a uh musician um from portland who's living in la uh his new album is out i think he said the 16th may 16th yeah may 16th featuring a single that that is sampling one of our favorite streets songs and it works very well it does i was delighted to hear it great but he's a funny guy really sweet lovely lovely guy lovely guy honestly lovely guy lovely guy when people like him are successful it makes me it i'm glad that that still happens because most people are monsters yeah he is not a monster yet yet yeah let's see let's see how it goes let's see after 16th what's looking like um all right uh thank you for listening howlonggone.com is the website later this episode of how long gone is brought to you by squarespace Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools. So those future graduates can find me and, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. You know, show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early. And we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional.

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That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. So, yeah, you're coming to us from what looks to be like an office, a Twitter office. A Twitter office. what's a twitter office exactly chris i just mean like a 2011 like he's got the whiteboard with like notes which i know musicians do this while they're working on an album but are you plotting q3 right now bro that is so funny this is this is this is part for the recent album there it's just like back here i'm i literally put it between that wall so niggas couldn't see it you know i mean like and it's kind of worked against me because it was out it was actually out here for a while but now okay all right okay so you have that tucked away so people like your friends that are coming over to your house can't see it or people on your zoom meeting literally i can't see this the track less written both everything both well more so just because it looks like insane like everyone's gonna ask me questions about it there's no point in that of this Let's just tuck it away. Okay, so you've got the white. I'll paint the picture. It's an audio podcast, so this is not video at all. Don't worry. We're leaving them hanging. We're not going to ask you what color your underwear is, and we're not going to record video. So you've got the whiteboard, and you've got the track list. Every song is on a post-it note, and you kind of move it around, and you stand and look at it with your arms crossed for a minute, and you're like. I think 12 should be 8, and then your friend chimes in and then it fucks it all up. How does that work? No, the way you just explained it is exactly that. But also to the point where it's almost like I can't select some certain songs, so me and my friends... i have like a mini hoop in my living room so me and my friends is shooting for our favorite song and whoever wins like okay you know so so it's kind of like flipping a coin but with more of a athletic it's like more skill with the song yeah yeah when you're like stuck yeah when you're when you're stuck and you can't choose you just leave it up to god you gotta hoop it

I let go and let go out all the time, so I know exactly what you're talking about. So I would say that the mini basketball hoop is the second thing that is sort of reminding me of like an 80s office culture slash your bedroom as a child. Like it feels very Wolf of Wall Street, like you close a deal and throw the receipt through a little mini hoop. Let's go do a bump, bitch. Yeah, it's very social network. We're expanding our growth exponentially. inspired by it, man. I bought that movie on my iTunes card. It's definitely been inspired. Is that like the credit card that your mom gives you before you're ready to have one on your own? Yes. It's the iTunes gift card, man. They got like $15, $50, depending on Christmas. That's a great stock. What do you need? What do you need? People go in and rack it. Like, I'm going to spend $500 on iTunes and just pass them out. This is before streaming, man. Like, we was just buying music videos. Like, why? Buying a music video with an iTunes gift card is actually insane. You're absolutely right. Definitely did it. Back when you could buy the Soulja Boy ringtone, that had a reason and a purpose. Yeah. When somebody calls you, everyone's like, oh, shit. Yeah. Soldier Boy, tell them. Yeah. It was worth $1.99. I wish they would bring that back, honestly. I do, too. I could finally make Party Like a Rockstar my ringtone again. That's so hard. Take me back. I feel like you could do that, though. You're like Apple will. You absolutely can, guys. Oh, you can? I mean, I could fucking take this iPhone and fly to Mars, probably. I think I can go boop, boop. I know what you guys are saying, but I feel like there's weird shit that they're going to block because they can't monetize it. And that feels like one of those. You know what I mean? It feels like something political with it. Yeah, exactly. I'm a thinker. I could put your whole album as my ringtone. That's where the technology is. Your shit's not even out yet. And I have it as a ringtone. I would never do that, of course. Nah, you could. That's a good promo, honestly.

Yeah, we were talking with Nick, your PR man and our friend for many years. And we were talking about the future of leaking albums. And we were talking about when Kanye will go and do a live stream with some white dude who's a rapist in a bedroom somewhere. And they play some beats versus when it would be this grand. you know everyone's coming out the kids are coming out yeah marilyn manson's looking weird coming out everyone's you know there's fireworks and smoke and nowadays it's like what youtuber can we leak this to yeah yeah i mean i and that's it that whole this whole era of leaky music i've never been good at i don't really leak music as a mutual i don't know how to leak you're a bad leaker yeah I trust everybody I work with. No one really leaks my stuff. That's your problem. We just got your album. Nick just sent us your album. I got to work with more douchebags. You know what your problem is, bro? Circle too small. Circle that you can't keep an eye on. You got to switch this whole thing up. You've been doing it wrong. I got to be real loose with it. Just leave the hard drive at the studios. Oh, my bad. I'll come back next week and grab it. Promise you don't listen to any of this unreleased music. Promise you don't leave my music tonight. Where do you go? Where did you do this? Do you do it at home or do you go somewhere? Both. I go somewhere for the start of the process of an album. The start of the process of an album is very intense because you're just like, what the hell am I going to do? kind of thing sure sure you want to be somewhere a little secluded you know what i mean oh so you're oh so you're a guy that hits you're hitting sonic rant you're going to like the middle of nowhere i was yeah i was in the forest in mexico city when i started that oh i okay okay okay so this is this is not we're not like going to a recording studio this is like you know it wasn't it

Oh, it was? Okay. No, it was a full recording studio in Mexico City called El Desierto. Yeah, I know this place. It feels like a treehouse. Yeah, it's like a whole treehouse. It feels like a Disneyland for music. It's crazy. Yes. They cook all the food. How do you get the weed out there, though? They brought me weed. They brought me... Like, those dudes are hella cool. Well, maybe I should announce them like that. I think most people would assume that a recording studio that is like a treehouse in Mexico City would be providing... I mean, that's not really... That's not out of the question. You said what? Okay, so you go out there. I said, I'm bilingual. So you and a few of your friends... maybe a partner, maybe not. Do you leave the girl at home when you do this? Yeah, I don't have one, but yeah, I would. Okay. We'll let all our female, we'll let our female listeners know. Great segue. No problem. Ladies and fellas, he's single. You know, we know it's 2025. Shit's different. 2025 ladies and fellas, man. Bring it on. So you just go with a couple of the homies is what? Not homies. I'm honestly just going with me and my producers and we're just kind of locking in for like two weeks. And then I'll come home after a couple months of working in different places and then record literally right here. Really? Like in that booth. Oh, wow. Okay. So you're saying you get the inspiration that you come home and lock in to finish this thing off. Just to like finish the shit out because sometimes you just get high and you're... making something and it's really sick but you write the hook to it you don't finish all the verses like you get lazy in the studio sometimes when you're making like a lot of songs you know so sure yeah that's because studios provide drugs and alcohol for their musicians and that i mean literally that yeah i always i always make fun of the studio that i used to have to go to uh in atlanta had like a rock climbing wall and all this shit to distract people from doing the job so funny and i was always like

why the fuck what are we paying for this cost a fucking fortune because they have beer on tap and an elton john pinball machine yeah it's like i don't we don't need this dude no that's actually that's actually so right that's like no no one ever talks about how studios are just supplying you with things that don't matter because they charge by the hour the longer the longer it takes to record that album yeah the longer you're there rock climbing bro exactly yeah the check is yeah but i feel like if i'm like oh i can't nail that bridge I'm going to go up for a few minutes on the rock climber, just no headphones, and just find it, you know, and I feel like it'll help. And that shit costs twice as much as a regular rock climb. Oh, yeah, that's the most expensive rock climb, probably. Rock climbing ever, yeah. And they don't even have, like, the chalk or whatever. You can't do this. I'm going raw. You know I got blisters from playing guitar. This is hard, bro. This is fucking me up. I'm getting cramps. You know, bitch, I don't wear gloves, bro. Okay, whose idea was it to flip the streets? song though because when when chris and i we talked to you about a couple white boys really fucking with the streets over here so when i heard it i was on hard bro that was my that's my that's my thank you man i it was my it was my boy leto um who produced a lot with me on 2.5 he we made that like three years ago and i made the hook actually same thing we were just talking about i made the hook to that song got lazy and i was too high never recorded the verses so i never put it out then Three years later, working on this album, Lido brought it up and he was like, yo, I think this is really good. We should try and finish this. And I was like, all right. And it sounded sick. Shout out to Lido for sticking with it because that's the single, right? It's really because of Lido. Yeah, that's the single. Lido is the one who championed that shit and made me be like, okay, you're definitely right. But yeah, Mike Skinner is like... the illest and he's co-signed it which makes me happy oh we got the official co-sign yeah like approving the sample and we yeah you know what i mean and all that because i was really nervous that the streets wouldn't approve sure that they're just known for not approving i hope he gave i hope he didn't tax you though did he tax you or did he no no that's crazy at all like trust me i don't have that crazy in the budget like i'm not i'm not drape you know i mean

He's like, these AirPod Maxes are actually Klarna. So it's all good. I don't got no money. I think Mike knows that Mike's been, he's a legend. Super. But his heyday was a couple decades ago. Yeah. And I feel like his music from the year 2000 is just as fresh and exciting for the next crop of young people. Just as fresh. So many thousands of people are going to discover the streets. from your song so he knows that like that's only what's good for the goose is good for the gander as they say right yeah yeah you ever heard that one before no i haven't i i'm black fair enough not a lot of geese keeping over there not a lot of geese in my hood man It's so funny. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, but you're from Portland, so let's be clear. That's a good point. I'm from Atlanta, so technically, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I don't even know. Come to the Best Day Ever Fest in Portland, Oregon, September 12th, 13th. I'll show you the real Portland. Okay. There's a lot of black people there. There's a lot of black people there that no one talks about. Yeah, Nike. No, I mean, I know Nike is there, but I'm saying, like, you mean... No one from Nike. These are all... We're not talking about art directors. They're not from Chicago and London. We're not talking about art directors. They're really from Portland. Oh, yeah. Okay, you're saying... Okay. So, because I think... I think Portland is famously white, which is so cool that you're from there. Super white. Portlandia and all that stuff. Yeah. I was... Dude, I've got beef with Portlandia because Portlandia is a great show. Love it. I think it's the most funniest thing in the world. right it's funny but they like just don't talk about the black side of portland like ever and i was very excited to be on the show because they asked me to they actually oh shit they actually asked me to be on portlandia a while ago and the script when they sent it to me was me being like the token black guy in the office and i was like you know what

I'm good. And I didn't do it. I can't. You didn't do it. I didn't do it. You didn't want to kind of rewrite it or talk to anybody. You were just like, this is too far. I'm just going to walk away. I'm not letting this nigga rewrite shit. So you were like, you were hoping that maybe you'd be able to put on for your city show your side of Portland. Oh, yeah. I love Portlandia. I thought they were going to do, I was like, oh, they want me to be in it. They want to like show Northeast Portland and show like niggas like. gang banging that's funny that's hilarious yeah i mean that's great i have a feeling i don't think that's what fred armison is really planning on doing it's definitely not doing fred armison doesn't know what banging means in any sense of the word in any sense that's that's a little bit of my issue with the show is that there's a whole other side to it the way yeah like most gentrification and shit works uh yeah um but it is what it is it's just like an unspoken community that doesn't get really spoken about so I like to make sure like I'm from Portland. I'm black. Enough time has passed. Maybe we can do, you know, a little, you know, your, it could be a web series. We don't have to start. Yeah. We can start small. We can start small. We're happy to be behind the scenes on that. We don't need to be kind of in front of the camera. You don't want to be in front of the camera for that? No, I think we can. I just think we can help craft the story, you know what I mean? But I don't need to steal any shine from you. Actually, now that you say that, the Young Thug mixtape, Black Portland. Dude, when Black Portland came out, my entire friend group was going nuts. We were so confused. What did that feel like when you wake up, wipe the sleep out of your eyes? Spotify says, oh, Young Thug has a new gift for you. And you open it up. First of all, it wasn't even on Spotify. That was on SoundCloud. It was pre. It was pre. Pre. Pre Spotify. Yeah, the first song, Suck Me Up. What a tune. What a tune. It's playing right now for our listeners. What a tune.

What a tune, bro. What a tune. Suck me up. God damn it. I honestly don't remember what the first song is. You remember what the first song is? No, he looked it up. Because that mixtape. He looked it up? No, no, no. I remember distinctly the very first song is my favorite song. And it starts out. It's just like so good. I mean, and just like every other thug mixtape, it maybe goes down a little bit, but Danny Glover's on there. Oh, Danny Glover is on there, yeah. It's a classic. Can I ask, because Suck Me Up, Jason, is that the chorus, or is that just kind of a phrase he used? It's kind of, it's a long-running theme throughout the entire track. Oh, I see, okay. So, like, there'll be, like, a little bit of a melody where he's like, she does want to suck me up, and then it goes into a part where he's like, suck it up, suck it up, suck it up. Oh, yeah. the fact that you remember that verbatim is crazy i i i don't i don't know how i don't know how that's really impressive i mean i'm a fan no i i did love that mistake though love that mention thank you that's big for the city that's big for the big big for the city that must have been crazy you moved away though i did i did like when i was like 22 i moved away um but i'm to la but i'm i'm literally in portland probably like once every month you know at least you got a you got a crib there or what i got my family's crib up there stay with my mom and dad when i'm there i never stay at a hotel i like that so you humble yourself you go back you leave the hollywood hills and you're you're just go to do you just go to do laundry because they got that my mom bro when my mom takes my laundry it's the best that's really it does it hits different oh my god I was just at my parents' house and my mom did my laundry and I'm like, I do it the same way. I think I do it the same way, but the result is just different. It's so different. It's so different. And it also feels like you're taken care of again, which as an adult sometimes feels pretty good. That's nice. Yeah, we need that. We need that. What do your parents, what do they think about you? Like, are they fucking with this whole thing or they still wish you would have been like a doctor? They definitely wanted me to be a doctor.

for for forever uh and then specifically a doctor specifically no just like anything that was a serious job to them right yeah sure a lawyer doctor whatever the hell a nurse like my best friend yosef is a nurse um And they think he's amazing. They always ask about him. That's smart to keep a nurse in the clique. Oh, for sure. I don't have a nurse. Jason, we got to find it. We need a nurse in the squad. I think a veterinarian is the best I could do for you. I mean, that's fire. I wish I knew a vet. That's close. No, I think I know some nurses. in the filipino community yeah you might know some i mean nurses are a young nurse you see the figs coming you know what i mean you know what time it is so your parents are like were there are they still waiting for you to finish this little music phase so you can go back to law school or has enough time passed did you pull out the the presidential and they're like all right okay well All right, I guess it's pretty good. Yeah, basically, I came home like 10 years ago with like just a vacation as a gift to Hawaii. And my dad was like, my dad started crying. My dad was like. oh okay like i i get this you know what i mean like i fully understand that this is a job now like i should stop like teasing you about this that's big that's big of him because dads love to tease it was so big of him i couldn't believe it well it's great he was going to hawaii he wanted that to happen again you know he's not exactly he's not stupid he's not stupid like dad that's so amazing first class or is it just You can just send me a link to the hotel. I just want to check it out. Bro, I swear to God, that's exactly how my dad is, bro. Exactly how he is. Show me on the ticket where it says business. I can't find it. I don't have my glasses on. He hints at that type of shit all the time, bro. That's how it is. Speaking of travel, we did not talk about it, but there was a little headline. Chris and I talk about travel a lot, Delta lounges and all that shit. I'm sure you're tuned into the flying game.

And there were two people that they proposed to each other, proposed marriage in the Delta lounge at an airport. What? What is your Delta status? What is your airline? Wait, wait, wait. Are you asking me to comment on this proposal? I'm asking you to marry me, first of all. First and foremost, I guess you're not paying attention. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. How it works, TaskRabbit connects you with skilled taskers in your area. They can help you move. They can assemble furniture, repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. You can search for a tasker based on cost, skill set, availability, and past client reviews so you know exactly who's showing up and can have confidence that they know what they're doing because taskers have assembled over 3.4 million pieces of furniture, completed 700,000 home repairs. handled 1.5 million moves, and the numbers are just going up, Jason. Yeah, throw a little money at the problem. It's not so expensive, and that job that you really don't want to do is something that another person out in the world is very good at doing and would gladly do it in exchange for a little bit of money. So when life happens, your to-do list grows. Get ahead of it now and get $15 off your first task at TaskRabbit.com or grab the TaskRabbit app. using promo code howlong. Taskers book up faster, especially for same-day tasks. So book Trusted Home Help today. That is $15 off your first task using promo code howlong with the TaskRabbit app or at TaskRabbit.com. Hi Talk House Network listeners, it's your old friend Nels Klein from Wilco here. Wilco is touring this summer and we'd love to see you somewhere on the road. We're playing shows this June and July in Rochester Hills, Michigan, Chautauqua, New York, Lafayette, New York, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Vienna, Virginia, Forest Hills, New York, Portland, Maine, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Memphis, Tennessee, La Grange, Georgia, Charleston,

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I'm rocking with Delta and it's fuck United all the way. Like, oh my God. Put your D's up. I hate United. United, did something happen to you or is it just like it's not your flavor? It's just, it's one, it's like you pay crazy money for a business class flight like internationally and they're giving you like the fucking wackest business class vibe. And wheat thins and shit? It's like wheat thins and like a... Like an 80s plane. The button's a little cracked off on the side. My AirPods get stuck in the back easily. It's like, yeah, it's a whole thing. That's a lot of problems. I'm with you. It's a lot of problems. I'm not with it. Delta. that's that's heaven right there are we have we achieved delta 360 status what's that yet okay that answers the question what is delta 360 status that's so delta 360 is the the top level of status above the diamond and all that oh no i'm not there yet i don't even know what that is i thought dying i have diamond but i didn't know that was no there's a set there's a there's a kind of illuminati level That is some people we know. I did the Delta one. That shit was amazing. Oh, in L.A. The one in L.A. where it's got the entrance. Yeah, the entrance is crazy. Did you have the full sit down restaurant meal in the Delta one? I did just because I'm a nigger. Like if it's free, I'm taking it. Like what? Damn, you're just like Jason. That's crazy. I cannot say no to a free meal at all. Even if it's stupid, I'm eating that shit. They got smoothies, cakes. Meals, lunches. I'm like, bro, what? And the first time I went in there, Glorilla was in there doing the same thing. Everybody was ordering food. Big Glow. Bro. I was like, no way. Are you and Glorilla friends? No, but I love her. I think she's a beloved artist. We all love Glorilla. I saw a video of her showing off a new Chanel bag.

And she referred to the Chanel bag as her new Nelly. And I was like, that is a really cool way to refer to Chanel. She just makes everything cool. It's kind of crazy. You know what it is? She looks like she's having fun. Always. And most people don't look like that. And that's, I think, what is infectious. Speaking of Chanel, I would say Ice Spice doesn't look like she's always having fun. Whereas Glorilla is always having a great time, right? Your thoughts, Amine? Why are you attacking Ice Spice out of nowhere? That is crazy. He said Nelly, and then that reminds me of Ice Spice, like 100 bands on Chanel. She may have created that as a slang phrase for Chanel. And then he was talking about... people who look like they're having fun and she doesn't look like he's having fun. I just want her to have fun. I care about her. You explaining this talk process is great. You're really deep in your rap bag today. You did the done thing. He did his research. I'm clearly overcompensating. Whenever we have a rapper on the show, I'm always trying to prove my street credibility. I mean, you have it, brother. You have it. You take that. Much love. Much love. much love to you yo much love this is audio only they gotta know you did the prayer hand oh shit okay um let's talk about weed are you high right now a little bit yes a little bit okay i smoked one joint this morning you smoked one joint when i so so when i'm like releasing new music because I released a snippet this morning. I never want to be sober for that because that's the time for everyone to judge and have opinions about your new song. I'm just like, bro, I need to be geeked up. I need to go get a coffee, walk in the park. You're saying you release something, you wake up...

You hit the backwoods, you go get a Cortado, and you walk around. Yes. While everybody else is judging the music. You leave the phone at home, you go to Community Goods, and then you go do a little run-in hike. Community Goods is crazy. Yes, I do love Community Goods, though. I do love Community Goods. Just wait in line with 7,000 people. Four hours later, I'll get my Cortado. Where do you put the Bentley truck, though? Because parking's tough. Oh, I just park illegally, always. I just put the blinkers on. You're just like all the Saudi billionaires over there. You just put the blinkers on. That's crazy. So when you say you just park illegally always, are you talking about always? on melrose or just all over everywhere in general just like no no not all over any i'm from oregon so i'm gonna be polite i'm gonna look for parking but if i can't find any okay i'm parking in the red oh yeah yeah yeah yeah put a little coffee if i'm there for like three hours though definitely not doing that because i don't want my shit toad okay like going to the you've gotten toad before right Yes, that shit sucks. But what was it like your Honda Accord years? It was a little nicer. No, no, no, no, no. They told my Range Rover just boom. No, they took the rain. Where were you? I was in L.A. I think I was like in East L.A. I was just like in a hurry. You know, like you're doing shit. You're not really realizing. You didn't look at the little sign that says like only two to six and it's 605. And then my shit got toes. There's nothing more humbling than a toe. Oh, for sure. I was recording this podcast and I looked out the window and was like, oh, shit, somebody's getting towed. And then realized it was me getting towed. How did you not notice your car? It was out of a window. He's sober, too. I'm sober. I got no excuses. But it was the worst day of my life trying to get that car back. It took me so long. Oh, like more than a couple of days? No, no. It was one.

four-hour period, but I had to go downtown. I had to go to four different locations to figure it out. That was the annoying part. I was just in Ethiopia. This is the craziest shit. If they see you parked illegally somewhere that you're not supposed to be in Ethiopia, they take off your fucking license plate, take it to the government office, make you come to pay for the ticket, take the license plate, go to the office now to get your car. and put the license plate back on. Wow. Wow. That's thorough. Honestly, I mean, that's fucked up and cruel, but it's very smart. It's pretty smart. It gets the shit done. It gets it taken care of. They want you to get pulled over if you don't pay for this ticket. Did you go visit family? Yeah. Well, I was shooting a bunch of shit for the album, and I was seeing my grandparents that I hadn't seen in, like, five years. They're, like, 94 years old, but they're, like, kicking. They're, like, 70. Beautiful. How hard is it to film stuff in Ethiopia? Usually it would be hard, but the people we were there with were like these sick producers out there that just know the city so well. They're like the goats of their city, and they just knew where to take us and just make things easy, and they were hella cool. They're a really talented photographer. Good Ma on IG. So you had some handlers taking care of business. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and some of them were from the States and they just like moved to Ethiopia because they're Ethiopian as well. What is it like in Ethiopia? It's super modern now. They just like have built the city over the past like five years since the last time I went. And it's like... yeah they just have like crazy club appearances and shit for artists like ruby rose was there recently doing the club appearance did you happen to be there at the same time i mean i don't know i wish i was that'd be convenient that'd be convenient uh no but she she she did an appearance there there's like a bunch of parties and shit they do for new year's there they're like

it's like slowly coming up it's like rising as a city to be way more inviting towards like every culture to just pull up like like like nigeria and lagos right now is like the place to be in africa a lot when people party my friend went tonight my friend went to nigeria and was basically like It's unreal. It's so fun. He's got family there. They're out to like 10 a.m. It's insane. Oh, damn. It's like that. They start going out at 1 a.m. I didn't know the Coke was that good in Nigeria, but that's shit. That kind of changes my opinion. I didn't know. I mean, that's literally what they'd be doing. It's crazy. I still have never been. I want to go, though. It sounds crazy. It sounds very crazy. I don't really. dabble in the white though that that's a lot like i know what you're talking about but i know that's a lie in some other areas but we'll we'll keep it moving oh yeah yeah for sure for sure i definitely dabble in the you know the psychedelics of the world oh no i'm not talking about that i'm talking about snow bunnies is what i'm talking about got it yeah yeah yeah well sometimes He's not talking about that white girl. He's talking about white girls. Just regular ass white girls. I thought you were talking about that white girl. No, no, no, no, no. Speaking of Africa, what do you think about white people making Afro house? White people making Afro house? Jesus Christ. What? That's insane. I don't really fuck with that. That is insane. I didn't know that was a thing. That's like big? Yeah, it's a thing. It's a thing. It's sort of in the Tulum kind of vibe. There's a group of DJs. It's called Klein Music. It's like these three dudes. Oh, no, they're huge. They're like giant. They're huge. Super huge, but it's like three of the whitest dudes ever. Are they like South African white? No, no, no, no. They're like Germans or something. No, I think they're Swedish. No, it's called Kene. It's like K-E-I-N-E.

M-U-I. Music with a K. I'm definitely not remembering how you spelled it. It's huge. It's like one of those things that like... I gotta tap in. No, you don't have to tap in. You don't have to tap in. Yeah, you don't need to tap. He's like, it's huge. It's huge, but in a bad way. I mean, yeah, that sounds a little problematic. It wouldn't be the first time a white DJ was doing some bullshit, though. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, bro. I mean, white people be doing shit they shouldn't do all the time. Hey, we stand in our lane. We podcast. That's what white people should do. That's our thing. That's our thing. We'll take that one. Yeah, we are seated in the booth. We are doing ad reads for Squarespace. This is y'all culture, for real. It really is. This is our culture. It really is. God damn it. Yeah, we're here to just chat about stuff. So you woke up this morning. You smoked a little bit. You logged off. The snippet went around the world. Have you looked at the comments yet? No, not yet because I hopped on this call with y'all. Okay. I'll look at it later, though. Okay. So you wake up about noon then. What time are we looking at? Oh, no, no, no. I wake up at 7 a.m., bro. I got Zoom calls. Oh, you're early. I got Zoom calls in New Balance. I got meetings for collabs. Oh, this guy. Okay. I got a white boy, brother. I got a white boy. That's true. That's true. Honestly, that's true. So you're up at 7 because you got to deal with some East Coast business stuff. Yeah. Like, I'm up because also, like, as a 30-year-old, I feel fucking new. insane waking up at noon now like that's it since i can't do that that's not even if i don't have work just like for me just in general to grab a coffee and you know do the do the little shit i have to do well a lot of people in your business are night owls oh for sure so i'm sure i'm a i'm a night owl during like album time for sure but like oh but you you can separate it once the music is done and i have like releases and rollouts and things like that to do this is like the work this is like i have to be up at like a like it's an office this is this particular time doesn't feel like work but other times no no no yeah yeah

But, you know, I just got to make sure I'm on time and I'm not too tired and I'm, like, not geeked up all the way, just a little bit. Sure, just not all the way. Okay, well, I've got the Instagram post for VK pulled up. Do you want to read some of these comments live or what do you think? Hey, let's go. Read some of them. Let's go. I ain't afraid. They're all good. Okay, let's see here. Friend of the show, Unknown Mortal Orchestra says, 24 hours of Le Mans mentioned. There is a lyric in there. There is. There's a very good little bar about the Lamar. Graphic design studio Fisk Projects leaves an emoji of a Mai Tai beverage. Portland's own. Portland's own Fisk Projects. Portland's own. We talk all the time. A lot of people are considering this song Vacay to be their new vacation anthem. Okay. You thought about that now. You thought about that with the title. I did. Of course I did. I like money. So the word vacation and vacay, you see a through line on those? That's very interesting. Just a little bit. Sauvignon Blanc, okay. I see you, Adam. Okay. So we're rapping about Sauvignon Blanc as well? so great i wish i could read all my did you did you rhyme something i did yeah yeah you should you could pay me 60 an hour to have a white man read your ig comments to you okay we are ready all caps the eagle emoji he's so back fire emoji i really want to go on vacay he drops heater after heater oh you know what the t is though you know what the t is what's that who commented about the vacay song Zellia Banks just said it's the best song. Oh, that's actually big. I know it's big. I know it's big. I'm hype. Are you crazy? I love Zellia Banks. If you could get her asked to say something good about you, you have truly escaped death. I know this. I know this. I think she's the best. I'm sorry I missed that because she was tweeting earlier about how...

all the kanye behavior is because he's diabetic and it was a diabetic rage and i was like this is okay i'm you know this is one i haven't heard before but i'm not i'm not totally gonna write it off you know how he gets without his sour patch oh my god yeah exactly exactly exactly do you have a personal relationship with azalea banks no i i've literally never met her spoken to her to i mean a couple a couple weeks back she was hit me about um arc the jump the street sample song um and she was just saying she liked it um so her just tweeting this was cool i like her a lot as an artist like i'm a huge huge fan so we all are i'm just we're we're all fans but what happens when what happens when ab says something wild about one of your friends what do you do then laugh i i laugh and then i just i just kind of uh i don't say i'm really You keep it moving? I keep it moving, man. I just be wanting peace. That's all I want. Just peace. Okay. We all want peace, bro. He hated that answer. Well, that's because it wasn't an answer. I used to see the way you reacted to that answer because he put his hand up in there and said, okay, we all want peace. That's good. I did one of these, guys. You gave me one of those. Yeah, I'm only saying that I'm speaking from personal experience. Maybe you haven't gone through it so you don't really have the ability to comment on it. Because I love Azalea Banks. She says really crazy shit about people all the time, and she really cuts to the bone like nobody else. And you're like, damn. she's the best nobody's doing it like her but then she'll say some shit about somebody that you are personally friends with and you're like oh that's never happened to me so i don't know what that experience is like i've never had to tackle i mean if it does i feel like if it has happened and it is mostly funny You know, it's like mostly because it's like she goes so over the top that it just becomes funny. She does just say what's on her mind and she is not like holding back. Like there's never been a time she said something and I'm just like shocked. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's true. It all sounds about right. She's more bolder than me, honestly. Yeah, of course she is. Than anyone. You ain't bold at all. What are you talking about? I'm not bold at all. I'm not bold at all. No, you're bold.

Don't worry. Don't let him say that, Adam. You're a bold guy. No, I'm just playing. You're bold as hell, bro. You're bold as hell. I'm bold as hell. What is the New Balance? How many New Balances have you done? I've done two, and I've been working on one for the past couple years now for the one that's releasing. We're going to release one this year as well. Okay, so it's not a new model, though. It's just like it's your shoe. What do you mean by that? I'm saying it's not like... A new silhouette. It's just your version. Oh, it is a new silhouette. Oh, it's a new silhouette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought maybe because you said it took so long, I thought it might be a new silhouette because it takes a lot longer. Yeah, it's a new silhouette that New Balance is rolling out right now called the Absorb 2000. So is it like a runner? Is it kind of like a 90s runner? It's like a runner. Yeah, yeah. It's sick. I liked it a lot when they showed it to me a few years back. i'm just like hyped too but how did this all how did this all go down because everybody wants to make a sneaker but most people don't get to do that oh yeah yeah yeah no definitely i i uh got hit up by them like in 2021 i think or 2020 for like an endorsement deal just to you know oh like wear it just to wear new balance not wear any other brand things like that and then yeah just like an athlete just like an athlete yeah just like an athlete literally uh yeah i i was just like i i told them i really wanted to make shoes that i just when i was like 18 before i made music i was like part of a whole design program for sneakers like i was and i oh you were like going for it okay yeah i was going like that's what i wanted to do other than music growing up um i just don't talk about it because it's like how are you gonna really like tell people that in in a non-quity way guys i really wanted to be a shoe designer like i don't know yeah no you're right it's tough it's tough but you did yeah but it's one of those things where like everyone loves you know grew up loving sneakers and dreams one day that they're

Yeah. You know, I'm going to make my own Nikes or I'm going to be a basketball player or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I wasn't even, to be honest, I didn't even care about having my own sneaker. I just really wanted to, like, design sneakers, just period, just because I, like, collected a lot. I was a sneakerhead, you know, I collected a lot of shoes and waited in lines at 6 a.m. and all that stuff. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. I think you're a great person to answer this. I have a personal rule that white people shouldn't wear Jordans. What do you think? why because it's just it's just not right it's just not right hey we we should say white people shouldn't make afro house that's what we should no i agree with that too okay i just think sometimes well that that's an easy proclamation to make chris is getting down i'm doing something a little dirt a little bit i'm on the front line you're going harder into the culture i like that I say this all the time, but I did see a quirked-up white boy wearing a nice pair of cooked Jordans recently, and I thought it looked cool. But it's a very high-level maneuver. You know what's one white man that got a Jordan collab? Who? Justin Timberlake, man. Oh, yeah. He did do a Jordan. I think they're worth a lot. Eminem got one, too. okay these guys yeah eminem eminem is a human jordan though you know what i mean he's the physical manifestation of the actual shoe yeah yeah yeah where is the sneaker collection still your mom and dad's like joe la puma style or you i i bro i was so broke in college and i was trying to make music i couldn't afford the equipment to record myself so i sold all them shoes to like buy my equipment, my laptop. That's how, as soon as I did that, that's how I like recorded, uh, like Caroline and all those songs. Investment in your future. I mean, I just didn't wear, care about sneakers. I was too broke to care about sneakers at that time. So you're telling me in high school though, you were, you had paper. I, my mom was helping me. But I also, but I also got the discount. I also got the disc, the half 50% off discount always.

Where? What kind of... I mean, I live in Portland. I don't need to say the brand's name, but you know what I mean. Okay, you were plugged up. I was plugged up. I'm from Portland. Everyone in Portland knows somebody. The whole city. The whole city knows somebody. That's a good point. I'm glad that you... It's nice, though, that you retired your sneaker headdom at a very early age. You kind of got out of your system when it was acceptable and then moved on. I moved on, yeah. I mean, yeah, I have a crazy sneaker collection now, but... that's just oh you do i just have too many shoes i honestly want to get rid of them too i gotta go clean what size are you 10 and a half 11. i'm a 12 sorry i can't i'll take some off your hands but he would have taken some of those tabbies off your hands bro yeah the white tabby boots i would have taken those off your hands i know people like tabbies bro i hate tabbies so much you don't like them on a chick I like them on a chick, but I'm saying, like, at this point, it's become this fad that feels really annoying to see. And it's like, if I see another cigarette between those little two toes, I'm going to go fucking crazy. I agree with you on that. But let me, Adam, let me propose this. I think there's certain things. that no matter how popular they get, because they are the original and they are good, like the Burberry trench coat, that's it. That's the one you buy if you want one. I know how important the tabby is to fashion and how much people love it. I'm tired of seeing everyone try to put everyone on about tabbies like they haven't existed. Well, as a Portland resident, I'm sure you are familiar with the Air Rift. What is the Air Rift? That was the Nike that had the split toe. It looked almost like a Mary Jane. It was really popular. Oh, yes, yes. It was really popular. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it has, like, little strings at the top. It's a strap, but they come with it. It was like a Velcro strap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You buy the split-toe socks, too. You see Shorty wearing those, she's going to suck you up. Yo. Yo. Oh, God. Yeah, I, that's, so, but you're wearing, are you wearing sneakers most days, or when do you put on your red bottoms?

Yo, that's nuts. I haven't heard a Nick say red bottoms in so long. Insane. who rocked red bottoms so much like that was such a crazy time bro niggas is really rocking red bottoms like it's a really the spike the spiked red bottom like yeah it was a crazy one was every rapper's like faded shoot that was it feels very french montana to me you know super french super i'm trying to think have you seen the photo of french montana oh yeah the photo of french montana with the shirt off on men's cover no No, he's on men's fitness cover with a shirt. Yeah, he's he's been hitting them. Is he is he is he actually like fit? Oh, he's been OK. It's both. Ozzy. The thing about Ozempic is to keep that shit up, to look okay, you still have to work out. Yeah, for sure. You still have to be building muscle. I think French has been in the park doing his pull-ups. You know what I mean? Hey, no shade, man. If you like that Ozempic, man, that's good for you. He looks like a wax figure, but he also looks pretty good. He looks better than he's ever looked. No question. There's this fad right now. fake abs and shit i don't really fuck with that i mean i would do the hairline thing you know i mean if my shit went back i don't think there's anything you're hitting you're hitting turkey for a weekend i'm hitting turkey i'm hitting turkey for sure but when you hit turkey are you posting on stories from the plane like on my way to turkey or are you just gonna like i definitely would okay i definitely would but low-key like just to be Honest. I'm not going to Turkey. I'm going to do that shit in LA. Because of your status as a popular rapper, do you have connections to doctors and things that maybe Jason and I don't have access to? I know for sure. I know for sure that some nigga on IG I could just DM and be like, homie, I'll do a little story post. Hook me up. That's actually true. Trade services.

Is invasive surgery really the type of shit that you want to get the little IG stories homie date? No, I don't want to do it. You've got to go under. You've got to go under for that shit. You're going to be good. I'm good right now, but I'm saying if my shit went back, I'm not having that. It's tough when the shit goes back with the locks. That's tough. There's some people that look good bald, and there's some people that really don't. That's true. Thank you. When's the last time you were bald? like 18 i had like the one all around okay one okay but you found that that how often do you get these retwisted i mean like every couple like four or five months i get okay that's actually that's not that bad i don't like the retwisted i don't like the retwisted look like that shit is just so like clean but you gotta let it you gotta do it occasionally to kind of reset yeah you gotta do it occasionally so you don't look homeless I get a lot of reels served to me of guys. About dreads? They come in with dreads, and they look insane, and they get a crazy haircut. So you know. Yeah, I actually do know kind of a lot. That's crazy. Chris stays on Twista TikTok. Yeah, I'm on Twista. Well, don't forget, Jason, that on Melrose, that across from our house, the business opened called Lock-A-Fella. That is the twisting studio. That's hard. Hard. I couldn't agree more. I do have IG. I might follow that shit right now. I believe it's called Lock-A-Fella. And that's it. There's no other signifiers. So hard. I agree. I'm sure you've got people coming to your house. Lock-A-Fella Lock Studios. Lock-A-Fella Lock Studios. Their logo is a lion. And if you could imagine, the lion does have locks. I'm with that. Yeah, you already know what it is. As you can probably guess, the line does have locks. Yeah. They make their own slides as well. I could spend all day on this one. Okay, so after we do this, are we going to smoke a little bit more, maybe get a light lunch? What's on the agenda for the rest of the day, Adam? Definitely, definitely going to smoke a little bit more and get a nice little sandwich, like fresh. Okay, where are we going?

Where are we going? Large mile wine and cheese. Oh, okay. Large mile wine and cheese. Large mile wine and cheese. That should be good. It's fresh. That should be real good. It is good. Get a little cornichon pickle. Oh, man, yeah. I like the little pickles. I don't want to eat a whole big pickle. Oh, I see what you're saying. I was walking around with a friend today. We were both eating bananas, and I was like, that's crazy. Like, he was like, we can't do that. We're in, like, South Florida. He's like, we can't do this. You've seen this, like, there's this whole joke of, like, niggas chopping up the bananas, putting them in their hand, and just, like, eating it like peanuts. Like the sunflower seeds. Yes, like sunflower seeds. It's so good. Like Cedric the Entertainer with a little bag of seeds. Yes. Yes. So funny. I'm not going to lie. Yes. One of my favorites. There's definitely been times in my crib when I'm hanging out with my homies and he's like, bro, you got some ice cream? I'm like, yeah, yeah. And he grabs a popsicle and he's just going to town on that popsicle. And I'm like, yo, calm the fuck down. Not in my house, bro. And he literally was like, oh, my bad, twin. I didn't even realize. Well, I think you need to offer solutions for him. You could let him know another way to do it. Sideways like the corn and the cob is another way to take it down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doing that with a popsicle is so funny. Oh, my God. I've never seen a nigga eat a popsicle like that. That is genius. Side saddle. Make that TikTok right now. Yeah, that's going to pop. You sound like you spend a lot of time on TikTok. I definitely do. definitely i gotta be i gotta be up to date with my news that's how i get my cnn that's how i get my i don't ever watch is that really how you get your cnn that's no not really but that's how i get my current events because i don't like to be on twitter too much okay because twitter is like great some days and sometimes just chaotic as fuck so you're logged on though you're you're looking at instagram you're looking at tiktok you're looking at social you're looking for sure yeah i mean that i have i'm on there all the time it's like it's great like inspo for random things if i'm looking for a new lamp in my crib i see a bunch of shit you know like the internet is uh the best and well you seem to have a good relationship with it some people don't yeah yeah yeah i mean i think there's people that don't

I think the people that don't sometimes don't have good reason. Yeah, some people are weak, you know, and I think they can't. I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. Most people are not built for Twitter in 2025. It can be a fucked up place. Speak for yourself, pussies. I'm out, I'm out. I'm logged on. I'm logged on. I mean, it's basically 4chan. I mean, the funniest thing is when I just see, like, you can edit, like, your tweets now or whatever. Yeah, if you pay, you can edit. yeah i mean they the the the label and shit that we pay from our twitter man i bet they do i bet they do because yeah they don't let you just rock right they like they they you can't just spray off they check oh no i can definitely spray oh you can't i can do whatever i want niggas can't tell me shit that's insane i would never let i would never let some corporate niggas tell me what i can't tweet but i definitely have a good head on my shoulders you know you're not crazy i'm not gonna blow this whole thing up i think i'm gonna blow this whole thing up but There's definitely been times I was so mad I wanted to tweet some shit and I just saved it as a draft and I was like, let me calm down. Yeah, you got to get it out, save it as a draft, and then keep moving and come back to it later. And then you look at it when you're a bit more level-headed and you're like, actually, that's pretty fucking funny. I might tweet this. That's a great method. I've always been afraid of the draft. For me, it's just like if you're really not going to post it, just put it on your notes app. Or send an email to yourself. For some reason, putting it in the Twitter application file system to be only kept there. I just feel like I'm going to be high one day, hit the wrong button. That's that conspiracy theory. Why put it there? If it's just text, I could type it anywhere. Why am I putting it in the one dangerous place? The notes app is just... my notes app is so there's like so much shit in there like i know i will lose i'll completely forget i put something in there for that yeah there's only like five different notes files in my app that like i actually check a lot and then the rest are just like random things ideas snippets etc yeah literally that's where i keep all my songs it's just the best

Untitled, though. Untitled is the best. I don't know if you guys know that app. No. It's incredible. No. What is that? Untitled is like what every artist is using right now. It's like where you upload your songs, you can upload your whole album to it and just listen to it and share the link privately. It's hard to explain if you're not actually using it, but it's a new way. Untitled.stream is the website, a sacred place for your work in progress music. Yeah. They're not paying me to do this. I was about to say, hold on. I swear they're not. I swear they're not. I swear by it every day because it's so safe. Like niggas will leak your iCloud or whatever the fuck, you know? And that's how songs get leaked. But like Untitled, none's happened to me. I've actually, no, I've never heard of that. I usually get Dropbox links, which is obviously not safe. I do not fuck with Dropbox. No? I don't like it either. I had one of my mixtapes leak through Dropbox once. Some guy in Russia. I don't know what happened. And that shit had me depressed. I was fucked everybody. Okay. And I was like, I hate Dropbox. Okay, so he's anti-Dropbox. I'm glad you found some of the works for you. This is a good solution because I feel like everyone is on the Google Drives, the Dropboxes, all that shit. Yeah, I think a lot of corporate people use that shit, but artists are not. artists are all like stop using apple notes and they're using like this this app now yeah coming from the artist community just just letting y'all know yeah you're the we're lucky enough to have an artist on our show today but you know people have said it's not worth being famous anymore in 2025 like you hear about all the old shit when you're famous you could just do whatever you want cops pull you over tell you to go home You could just do whatever you want and it's all good. And now you can't even have notes app on your phone without the Russian motherfucker stealing it, leaking it, ruining your life. Everyone can have their lives ruined by a Russian guy at any moment, but they're just not famous enough yet. So it doesn't matter. So the double-edged sword, the blessing and the curse of fame, Adam. It ain't easy. The curse of fame is real, man. But I will say that even with money, you still get pulled over.

Well, that's because you keep parking in the red, but, you know. Ten and two? Ten and two. Ten and two. Howdy ho, officer. I'm the nicest guy you've ever seen when a cop pulls me off. But how are the tents, though? You got a fishbowl or you're dark? Oh, the tents is... Yeah, no, no, I'm dark. No fishbowl. That's shit crazy to me. You want the sun in your face? I'm anti-tent. I think it's... I don't fuck with tent. I don't want the sun in my face. I want to ride without squinting. I'm sure you have sunglasses on. Dude, I heard this. My boy was telling me... My boy is a conspiracy theorist. My boy was telling me, don't wear sunglasses in the whip because if you get in the accident... The sunglasses crack and poke your eye out and your eyes. I mean, that is not illogical. It's not illogical. It's not illogical. It's kind of like, damn, I don't want to lose my eye. Of course not. No, of course not. I need these. It's putting broken glass very close to your eyeball. That is tough. If I lose a finger, though, it's all good. You know what I mean? Yeah, we can always make that work. The eye? That's tough. That's really tough. I need my eyes. Let's do the tints. I vote for 10. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Most people like them. In L.A., at least. It's just hella sunny. When does the album come out? May 16th, like in two weeks, actually. Okay. All right. So we're in full. And Katie's on it, right? Waxahachie's on it. Yeah. Yeah. Katie's on it. Did you just holler at her? Yeah. Yeah. We were just DMing each other. And she was super sweet, like super casual. Sent her the file. She was like, yeah, I'll be down. I sent her an audio message. And I was just like. I would love to have you on this album. There's a specific song I was thinking about for a while. And she sent another audio message back. I'm down. I love when it works out like that. She's super, super nice. I didn't think she'd be down to work with me. You know what I mean? Just sometimes when you guys make completely different genres, you're usually like, ah, maybe they... will be down to like hop into this other genre and maybe they won't you know so of course no there's always open and down so it was cool okay so we got two we got two weeks till the streets are on fire till the streets are on fire i like that that's all the streets are on fire until until then go go on adam's ig leave a good my tie emoji yeah leave a good bank comment tell me what's your favorite place to make

That's how I know your ass on TikTok too long. Hey, guys, log in and let me know your favorite place to vacation in the comments. Please. I would love that. That's like, you know, I got to play. Well, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. I want you to go get that large month. No, this is great. Good to see you. We'll see you soon. I'm sure. Congrats on everything. Yeah, we definitely got a link up in person. Yeah, we're around. We're around. Are you guys both in L.A.? I'm in New York, but. Jason's in L.A. I'm in L.A. You can listen to Black Portland. We'll link up. We'll go get some horses brunch. The horses brunch was good. I ain't gonna lie. Nick took me. Nick took me. He was great. I bet he did. His little thot ass over at horses. Thank you, Adam. We'll see you soon. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Relax and let King Soopers Delivery handle your grocery shopping this week. We start with only the freshest items. Then carefully pack your order in our refrigerated trucks. And our cool trucks keep your food fresh right to your door. Fresh groceries your way with King Soopers Delivery. And right now, you can save $20 on your first delivery order. King Soopers, fresh for everyone.