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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts. or watch on YouTube. How long gone rare occasion where it's how long gone after dark for Chris and how long gone mid-afternoon. for DJ them jeans, a known night owl anymore. This is really a flip that I wasn't expecting. It's making me feel a little crazy. It's making me feel crazier than Daniel Arsham's, um, new clothing line presentation it's feeling a little flat earthy you're like how do time zones work are they real how can it be dark in one place and light in another place well i heard something recently that you might agree with jason is that time is is you know merely a construct you know and i feel like that's some kind of third are you talking about the sushi restaurant no no no not that no no no no not not not despot sushi restaurant i'm talking about I'm talking about time as we see it as humans, as you check your Rolex, as you check your iPhone, as you check your Nintendo Switch, that this is something that is merely given to us by society to keep us corralled. Sounds a lot like the plandemic. Honestly, I feel like Fauci could have had something to do with time as well, but I haven't kind of dug into that yet. The Simpsons predicted this almost 80 years ago. Everybody.

Anything happens, and it's the Simpsons predicted this in 1999. I mean, it is a dumb thing that you see pop up all the time, but it's also... Not untrue. Like, there's been a number of times where, like, real talk, they got it pretty darn close. Like, if it was being graded on how accurate this dramatization was, it would be like an A minus, like a 91 or something. I mean, I've never really seen a lot of that program because it's a cartoon, and I would like to use this operation. opportunity to also say that uh jitlada is a bad restaurant but we can keep we can keep moving yeah so what else were we talking about yeah so well before we really get started i think the last time i felt like i was being a little too harsh on madonna talking about or that she resembled a river troll or something like that hold on did somebody hold on did somebody from madonna's camp threaten you it wasn't necessarily i won't call it a threat But I was put on notice. I don't know what you mean. Which gay guy that listens to this podcast put you on notice? Well, actually, I will be honest. No gay guy put me on notice about this. I'm trying to be proactive with my self-correction. I'm trying to get ahead of it before the queens get to me. But I just wanted to be on record in saying that I am actually... a big fan of madonna and her music and i shouldn't have been judging the way that she looks this is this is weird where's jason is this i i can't i know jason's got his camera turned off so i can't tell if this is it sounds like him but some of the things you're saying because i don't think that anyone um like obviously uh talking about uh madonna's looks is is something that society is doing right or wrong i know i just like that for once in my life um i'm not the one that's feeling uh guilty about some of his comments but i do think that madonna looks in you wait you you normally be feeling guilty about your comments sometimes i mean sometimes every now and again i mean the thing is when you talk this i'm gonna need you to keep it all the way up and with me right now i mean you know when you talk as much as we do sometimes it's like i i don't remember

Honestly, I don't listen to this show. We do it. I think if anything's too crazy, we talk about it, and then we keep it moving. But I think that the Madonna thing, to some extent, is I think the way that people are talking about it, her looks in particular, is because they're lashing out. Because Madonna was like a... a sex symbol madonna's represents like some of the greatest music ever made and i think instead of like i feel sorry for her because she's in a prison of her own fame and psychosis we lash out and we're like mean about it instead of being like this is what fame does to someone basically like this is this is what this is what fame can do to someone um especially women because they get it obviously 100 worse than we do um and instead of feeling you know feeling sympathy or empathy we kind of just make fun it's also i mean making fun of stuff is funny i'm not gonna you know in that video don't get me wrong i'm not gonna stop doing it but i will every once in a while feel that but she has been famous for our entire lifetime so In our mind and anyone else in our generation's mind, she sort of feels like public domain as if we can all openly speak. She's a government utility that we pay taxes on and are allowed to comment on as we want to. Also, it reminds me a little bit of the Britney Spears thing where people all of a sudden took that up as a cause that genuinely mattered. It's like, guys, I understand that what is happening to her is probably unfair, but I can't. I'm not going to use my voice to defend a pop star from her own dad. We use our voice to help the voiceless, and both of those heifers have loud-ass voices. But I think the main difference between the two is with Britney's conservatorship, there was a head to put on a stake.

There's an enemy that was identified. But with Madonna, who's to blame for Madonna? And don't say the man in the mirror. I wouldn't know. I would say I don't know enough about Madonna to know who's to blame. The only person I'm looking to blame, of course, is Amy Schumer and whoever produced that video. Because, you know, if it would have been. I mean, the one cool thing about Madonna and now Cher is that they do. Schumer can take it. Let's put it on Schumer. Sorry, go ahead. Has famously paved the way for is, you know, fucking. backup dancers that are half your age, which is something that I think is very, very cool. Right. That's the relationship she's in. And now Cher is doing something similar. And I think this is a nice, like, women empowerment kind of move. Yeah. How often does it happen the other way around? I guess if you're a male performer and you have backup dancers, you get it anyway. Yeah, 100%. That is one thing where it's giving it up for the ladies. It's one of the coolest power moves for an older woman, and I'm glad that both Madonna and Cher, two legends in the game, are able to stunt on us like that. It's an open-minded take that I like from you, and I'm surprised because you are so anti-dance. So does this teach you that maybe dance can lead to something nice in the bedroom? You know what I mean, Playa? Yeah, exactly. The way you move can kind of show a woman. No, of course. You know what I mean? Of course. Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're a 22-year-old Latin guy with washboard abs that grew up in Miami, you should be dancing. I think if you're a 40-year-old pasty white guy that grew up in Atlanta, you should not be. gyrating your hips in public at any point i think it's a i think that dancing is obviously a language of sex um and it it does it does kind of you know it yeah okay k fan there's no exactly there's no what there's no if ands or buts about that but i do think it should be left up to the professionals as well new york changed you when is the last time you've seen a guy like a a regular a truly regular white guy like bust some moves out and be like damn

And don't say Mikey because he's not regular. No, I mean, the answer to that is absolutely never. And I've spent hundreds of hours in dance clubs across the world. It's always somebody who's fucked up who can dance really well. But I do, yeah, I believe that true dance, like any kind of God-given talent that you must nurture and bring into a greater existence, dance is something that God blessed us with that only very few can do at a high level, high enough. to get Madonna in the sack. High enough to bottom for Madonna. Exactly. Can you imagine? It's a pinnacle. I don't even know. I can't even pop and lock, Jason. I can't even, you know. And I know you're a five elements of hip-hop guy, but even you, I know it's tough. If you can't pop and lock, that won't even get a finger inside of Madonna. That's what I'm saying. You're going to have to step it up to the street. It's pointless. But yeah, I mean, I think that that's... I still maintain... my stance on dancing, and I'm not going to change that. But I'm very proud of these young, hot guys who are able to be in relationships with powerful, older women thanks to their kind of tippy-toe dancing. Tippy-toe. There's a new guy that's entered the chat at Equinox where he's like a pretty buff dude who's in good shape, and he's got tats and muscles and all that shit. But in between every set, no matter what he's doing on, no matter what machine he's on. I did. He's looking at himself in the mirror. I did just join. He's looking at himself in the mirror. It's not you, Chris. For once, it's not you. He's looking at himself in the mirror, and he's doing his choreo solo. Is this a guy that you ever see? He looks painfully straight, which is what's really throwing me off. Here's the thing about this. I've seen this kind of behavior before, and I actually was talking about this earlier with Al. The amount of mirrors in a gym... creates you see you see things that you shouldn't see you know you see people making what can only be referred to as their like picture face you know it's like how they imagine themselves to be hot so it's either you know you see the guy kind of lift his shirt up a little bit you know to look at his abs and you're like dude you're you're in fucking public this is crazy and also you just did 12 reps i don't think you there's going to be a visible difference in your physique

Look, those knee tucks, the form was great, but I don't think 12 is going to. But you see people, you know, you see chicks doing the classic duck lip. You know, you see them looking at their ass in a funny way. And I think some light choreo in the mirror is kind of the turbo version of that. Yeah. And it's like something you shouldn't see, obviously. You should never see it. kind of take all my street wear to shout out to the og luke um he he he posted today 8 43 a.m there's a guy in equinox with a supreme poncho and a mohair beanie on working out and i thought to myself what yeah i was like i didn't know jason was in new york because i didn't i didn't know i didn't know anybody else owned the supreme it makes me wonder maybe somebody can go on and check stock x to see If the market is bullish, has my influence changed the market of this poncho? Definitely. Yeah, definitely. Damn. I'm the Scott Galloway of rain gear. Another experience Equinox had was interesting. At all Equinox locations, I believe there's four good treadmills. They have the radio treadmill, which is fine. You can look like you're walking through the streets of Paris or something. And then they have the... woodway for the real athletes where there's no tv sure and there's there's only four of those and today i was on one it's like a light phone for your legs it's so cool exactly that's a great way to think about it jason damn you're so cool you're so sick bro and then so then and then this woman walked up she saw that they were all full and she just stood there in view of all four of us staring at us trying to kind of intimidate us and kind of like hurrying up our workout and she wasn't she was you know probably in her like she was probably 30 not in great shape like nothing particularly intimidating about her except the stare there's the disdain on her face for having to wait on a saturday morning at 10 a.m at equinox like

What the fuck did you think was about to happen? And she was staring. She was staring so much that the guy next to me was full. He's like fully training for like a triathlon, like ultra, ultra marathon triathlon, like has all the crazy gear on. He's running for an hour and a half. He sees the woman on the end packing up. This bitch had a Kindle and an iPad out. No cap. She had a Kindle and an iPad out. He sees her start packing it up, and he's so acutely aware of the daggers being shot by this woman that he starts pointing. at the treadmill to let her know that the woman is packing up her entertainment devices. And I was like, dude, you can't let her win. You can't intimidate me to hurry up my workout. We're all paying members at this gym. And I just didn't know what to do. I was so annoyed by the whole situation. Yeah, those are tough ones. And usually in those situations, then you have to... It's you you have to do a game of mental chicken where you kind of have to hold out you have to tell all the other treadmill mates like hey guys Move it down to 1.5 because we could be here for hours cancel your 12 30 no it's it's a standoff because we're gonna ride out the storm yeah no it's a standoff i almost went an extra hour just to kind of but then one opened up so i knew it wasn't gonna do any good but yeah the the politics the politics are on a saturday especially are kind of um hot and heavy but i have noticed this weekend was the first weekend at the gym where the crowds have started to go back to normal a little bit that's good i'm glad i'm glad that you're i'm glad that you're surviving over there now is the have we done anything with all this TJ time since we last spoke? Has anything kind of happened? Have you done anything cool? Because from what I could tell, the answer is no, but I just want to check. Yeah, I took stock of being home alone, and literally the only thing I did that was different or crazy was I made pasta for lunch. Okay, so you had the house yourself for days. You could have gone out.

You could have done drugs. You could have driven faster. You could have gone to San Diego and not told anybody. No, I did all of that stuff. I did drive cool. Okay. And drugs. That was cool. I did drive fast on occasion. I could do that anytime. I know you think you can, but let's be honest. Okay, so you were able to have a pasta for lunch. That was my version of we're living in the upside-down world. Everything on the normal planet has been switched. That was going on. So that was it. Did you pick a crazy noodle shape or anything? Actually, I did make it not gluten-free. It was just regular pasta, like a bad boy. Okay. But, I mean, I did have not dreams or plans to do something wild and funky, but I don't know. It's weird. Like, once you get into your zone and your flow, like... you don't really want to disturb it ever. Well, also the silence is golden. Like that's the real, like being hung over for three days or whatever is not going to do any good for you. No, it is. I mean, honestly, yeah, I did get a lot of work done. I got a lot of writing done. It was, that part was nice. We're also preparing to do like an extreme amount of socializing while jet lagged and hung over, you know? So it's, it's, it's, I think it's smart to prep that nasty little body of yours. Oh, it's prepped and it's not nasty. It's tight and right. No one's ever said that. We had an experience today. We went to ABC Kitchen, one of my favorite restaurants, for lunch. That's where we met Bill Clinton? Bill Clinton we met at ABCV. But it's in the ABC family of restaurants. I made a last-minute reservation on the Resi app. They set us in Siberia. I didn't know how to handle it. I was like, I didn't really care because I was so hungry. But, like, they put us in a, you know, they put us with, like, it just wasn't good. Well, was it close to the washroom? Like, what was wrong with that? No, no, no. It's like you walked through the entire dimly lit, like, cool restaurant bustling. And then there's kind of like this, you know.

adu let's say in the back oh no not not actually obviously it's part of the building but you had to walk you had to walk through like a doorway and the tables were a little yeah it was just a little everything's a little different and the service was you know the service was uh we'll get to you when we get to you well i noticed something i never noticed before this this this kind of made me feel better is the table next to us was a couple seemingly on a date you know like maybe a second third date um And, you know, they're talking blah, blah, blah. Obsessed. They're drinking, obviously. So they're having cocktails, but they're asking a lot of questions. You know, like, oh, do you like this? Would this be good? Like, is that too sweet? I don't know. That's crazy. Should I get the cheddar biscuits? So what happens is they order their entire meal, and then she was like, oh, but you guys want to start with the donuts or the cheddar biscuits? Like an upsell. Does not sound like a restaurant that Chris Block goes to, by the way. The guy's got the rolly on and the fitted, and he's like, I guess, yeah, let's get the biscuits. So they get the biscuits. The biscuits obviously look fucking delicious. Anyway, she comes over to us. She doesn't try to upsell us one bit. Oh, really? One thing. Yeah, because she knew. She was a terrible server, but she knew that I wasn't playing that shit. Like, you ain't going to get me to buy donuts for $12.50. uh before my meal and that did make me feel like even though i'm in siberia where uh service is is barren and you know the music barely plays at least she respected me enough to not treat me like a bozo who's ordering some enyeho cocktails and you are not a mark i wasn't a mark and that did feel good because everybody right there's also they were also upselling people on something that i want to discuss with you to get a little more info on the dutch baby pancake This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly, a website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded.

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It's like a sweet Yorkshire pudding, I guess. But it's giving dessert on a high level more than a pancake or a waffle to me. I think what it is is you just get a hot cast iron pan and you have a pancake batter type of thing. You pour it in and put it in the oven and it heats up super fast, releases a lot of steam, and then you get this big poofy, crunchy whole thingy. But also more to the point is if they are charging that much money for it, it's literally like... 50 cents worth of ingredients. You know, it's like flour, water, and eggs with sugar, you know? We also had another meal last night at Corner Bar thanks to a friend of the show, Ignacio. Oh, yes. I'm dying to go visit Ignacio. They sent out, so there was like a very interesting ice cream flavor. Damn, Chris would really be eating. Chantrelle mushrooms. No. With truffle on top. Chantrelle mushroom ice cream with truffle on top. How sweet was this offering? It wasn't. How savory was it? It was delicious. It was one of those things where I was like, the server, I was like, bro, don't bullshit me. You know this is funky. Should I order this? And he's like, well, I like funky stuff. I'm like, all right, well, that's not answering my question. Is this good? And then I was like, fuck it, we're going to try it. Everybody agreed it was good. Four people at the table, everybody was like, this is good. I don't know if I would order it again. I don't know if I need this in my life, but it delivered a surprise. Ignacio always pushing the boundaries. It delivered a surprise, and I liked it, and I've never eaten truffles with something cold. It was a strange sensation. Well, I don't think I want to try that, but I would. You know, if I have my third eye open. It sounds like your third eye is opening more so now that you've been in New York, Chris. What's a you? I mean, what choice do I have? Everybody's a freak. Everything is insane. You know, there's no other choice. Everybody sucks. Everybody sucks. There's nothing. I mean, no, I don't think my third eye is open, but I think that, like, when somebody presents me. With a funky dessert, that's where I'm feeling the most adventurous. Because I love dessert so much that my heart and mind is open. Okay. You have the most open mind when it's sweet time. Yeah. Anything else, I'm out. Oh, all right. A few things on the docket. First, Happy New Year to all the Asian homies. Year of the Rabbit. Did you read your horoscope yet, Chris? No. Where do I go for that? You mean just the regular one or is there a special Asian one? Special Asian one. It's better.

I'm learning a lot. There's different ones for male and for female. For the non-binary Asian homies, I don't know which horoscope they're supposed to read. I don't know if they do both and figure out which one's better. I don't know. I like this because it seems... I actually think this is cooler because it seems more specific. I always find horoscopes, they're just a little bit like... I like that it's getting... year sex. That makes it feel more real to me. It does. Less of a shot in the dark, but they still find a way to... It all is still a scam, of course, but it's nice to know that someone's making a little bit more of an effort than normal, right? Of course. Are you celebrating with your people? Tomorrow, we got Tet going down to Orange County. There's ceremonies. You give some blessings to... Okay. Some elders, you eat a bunch of food. It's like if New Year's Eve party happened at 11 a.m. in someone's living room. That was kind of the vibe. Okay. I mean, I don't really know much about it, to be honest. Well, speaking of dockets, I forgot to mention this at the top of the show, which feels insane because it's pretty important in New York news. Did you see this kind of impromptu press conference that Hilaria Baldwin gave on the streets of Manhattan? Defending her man? This bitch. The involuntary homie? She's wearing, first of all, she's wearing, she might be wearing Mad Happy. It's a sweatshirt that says empath. Oh, wait, I saw that where she's like holding coffees. She's holding coffee. She's wearing sunglasses and empath sweatshirt. Holding coffee. And she does the full accent, like her full Spanish accent. Like, we will never talk to you. Don't do this. Like, leave me and my children alone. And everybody's like, this bitch is from Boston. And she's still doing it. Like, it was fully proven that she's from Boston. She has no ties to anywhere.

in outside of America, except like studying abroad or something. And she did this accent today when her husband is getting charged with manslaughter. She stopped and chose to address the paparazzi herself. Was it unprompted? Were people yelling at her to make a comment? Or do you think this was something that she decided to do? I'm sure that they're constantly yelling at her for comment. But if you're married to Alec Baldwin and you have seven kids, You should know by now that that's the deal. Like you married a famous guy who shot somebody. This is kind of what's going to happen. Like I don't know what pushed her to give this weird statement. But the accent thing is like it's Austin Butler. Like she decided this is who she was the way he decided he was Elvis. And they're just rocking with it. If you do get to sort of choose whichever. gender pronouns you want or your sexual preferences you're you know anyone's allowed to do whatever they want but they are not allowed to speak in an accent of a land where they're not from yet do you think that'll ever change or at a certain point i was like yeah i'm i'm white passing but I'm going to talk like a Cambodian guy for the rest of my life, and that's just who I am. I mean, you do it all the time, but I think that I feel like our Australian friends are fine with it, but maybe that's it. But no, I mean, this is a good question because this is something that people are like. People are deeply offended if you mock someone's accent from their country. No, you're right. It's particularly offensive. Or if you're a YTPPL. No, 100%. But I wonder where the, yeah, I mean, where do we draw the line? You're kind of right. Like, where do we draw the line? But I think that because of her being fully proven to be a liar and then her continuing to do it, I think it's almost turned the corner where it's like, oh, this bitch is crazy. You know what I mean? It's not even like.

It's not even offensive. It's just like, damn, this chick, Alec fucked up. He has seven kids with this crazy chick. To take a page out of Baldwin's book, Lemon, she's Caroline Calloway-ing. This is just camp entertainment now at this point. Yeah, it's just fully entertainment. And I kind of respect it. Sure. I think she's probably stoked because there's no way she actually likes hanging out with him and spending her life with him. I don't know who would. Why not? Alec Baldwin's a legend. jason why wouldn't you want to spend your life with him you think the dick's weak i would love i would love to hang out with him grab a meal and a glass of scotch and you know hear some old stories that side of him is great but you know the day-to-day living with him Sure. That's got to be tough. You're saying you don't want to ask Alec Baldwin to take the trash out because he might punch you or call you a fat pig or something. I mean, there's that stuff. Okay. What's her name? Hilaria? Hilaria? Hilaria. You wake up. You got the La Perla on in the morning. Your eyes open up. You're knocking the crusties. And the first thing you see is Alec Baldwin. in some fucking brooks brothers box there's like farting bro and you're like it's all worth it just die she does keep it very tight she is a yoga instructor so for having seven kids she's looking good you know i think that the picture you're painting of alec is unfortunately it does feel pretty fair but i want to hope that he's better than that. I bet he showers a lot. I bet he's not an alcoholic at all. I bet he doesn't smoke any cigarettes. I bet he eats really healthy. Like, I think she has him kind of, I think he's, even though it might seem to the naked eye that this is not the case, I think she runs the show, TJ. Yeah, but, you know, I'm sure that's possible, and I'm sure that's true for a lot of the hours out of the day, but he's going to snap. He's going to snap, crackle, and pop every now and again, and that's when everything is fine until he calls his daughter a pig or something like that on a phone call or pushes a guy on the street because he looked at him weird. But you know how the pop around is. He builds up. He builds up and lets it pop. But speaking of celebrities as well, I noticed...

I saw the cover of Entrepreneur Magazine and Steve Aoki was on the cover talking about Web 3, Web 3. Who's still talking about Web 3? That's embarrassing. Okay. My man. But he's wearing this outfit that's like a pretty insane outfit. You can just look it up and Google it. I can't really explain it. Words don't do it justice. But we could try. It's kind of like... you know uh it's like a satin sequin sparkly like there's like a a pink blazer and like an a blue ascot and like you know it's like an untucked like a miri dress shirt it's all stuff that you would see from like you know like every city has that one street where like where like the pimps shop at like where you go buy your stacy adams and stuff it do be pimpish you go buy your now and laters and stuff like that but so And also Jordan Peterson dresses like this. Like he wears these crazy. This is a new style. This is a new market. Is it kind of like top dog, like grussler meets peacock, like pickup culture kind of thing? Is it supreme peacocking mixed with entrepreneurial grind set? I think these guys are just so delusional and think that they're so right and they're so rich. Here's the first problem. I'm going to bet most of this stuff custom made. Oh, yeah, for sure. First problem. For sure. Custom-made. Let me tell you something. You don't need – like, custom-made suits are really nice, but the problem is if you don't have any taste, this is what happens to you. You pay a guy. You get overcharged to create a costume that looks like you work at the circus. Like, these guys look – also, I just want to make it very clear. When you wear a suit – you must tuck your shirt in. Your shirt has to be tucked in. I know that's the least offensive thing about this magazine. Unless you're wearing a sweater or a t-shirt or some type of shirt where it breaks at the belt line. But if it is a shirt that's meant to be tucked in, you've got to tuck it. If you're Fabrizio and you're wearing a vintage Coca-Cola shirt with your vintage Armani suit, yeah, that's fine. If you're Jordan Peterson and you're wearing a skin-tight button-up shirt, you've got to tuck it in if you're going to wear a jacket.

You've got to tuck it in. But Steve, so what is he promoting on the cover of his general entrepreneurial success? I don't know. I mean, it's said that he was on there to talk about Web3. I know that he's into, like, Pokemon cards and, like, NFTs and stuff, so it's probably just that. Okay. Like, the future of him and NFTs and stuff. Okay, so you're telling me the Entrepreneur Magazine, which is, you know, obviously a failing vanity title. Let's not get it twisted. It's like Forbes. But you're saying to me that these guys, these guys said, Web3, we need an expert. Who can we get? And they got Steve Aoki, a DJ and pizza restaurant owner. Yeah, here's the headline. Entrepreneur. Confused about Web3, Steve Aoki dissects his business to show how you can make money. The DJ turned digital entrepreneur has a gift for seeing the potential in strange things. He did look, to be fair, he did see the potential in DJ Them Jeans. So I can't, I mean, there's some validity to that statement. Damn, he's dressed like... Dude, it's crazy. Like MGMT at the Grammys. No, no. It's really... I'm sending you a photo right now. No, no. I mean, I remember... I saw it, but I don't know if like... Oh, damn, bro. Guys, honestly, I can't even... I can't. I don't understand. See, we need to have... Steve, if you're listening, let me... I mean, I have no sense of style, obviously. Let me be your stylist. We don't have to do this anymore. I just don't know what the, like, is he at the point where he's too powerful? Like, no one can tell him shit? Yeah. Okay. I think when you're at that point where you're just so busy working and grinding and cold plunging. You don't have. You're like, you basically live every day with, like, you just wear, like, board shorts and a t-shirt because you're just always, like, you know, doing backflips or cold plunges, one of the two. And that's it. So, like, when it's time to put on, like, a nice outfit, you have no idea what to do. And some, yeah, like, you know, one of your social media interns is like, dude, you should wear this. It looks dope. And you're like, okay, whatever. Give it to me. Put it on. I have no idea. Guys, I can't even. I don't have time for this shit. Just to get into a true description, it's a pink, but it's a fabric with, like, a tonal, like, print on it. A pink shawl collar.

It's pink with a baby blue shawl collar with different color buttons on the sleeves. Yeah, the four buttons, and also each button on the sleeve has different color stitching that correlates to each button. So the blue button, the stitching on that buttonhole is with blue. I've seen the Twitter account, the Dye Workwear guy, has been really chronicling the Jordan Peterson outfits. And it's very funny. Oh, really? Yeah, it's really funny because it's like – it's true. There's like this thing where like I think modern men like think that like when they see – they don't understand that a coat when you're wearing a suit, like a jacket, like a blazer, like it's supposed to be like a little longer. Like it's more flattering when it's like a little longer on the body. But there's this other – these guys all wear these jackets that like almost stop at their waist. Like they're like a – 50s stove pipe worker yeah and a lot of people were wearing stuff like that at at the golden globes as well this year the short jackets yeah the short jacket stops right at the waistline it's just a very strange it's it's just like again it can be pulled off obviously but i think overall when i see guys and you you might not realize this when you're looking at it because you're not a nerd but you're like oh that jacket fits better it's because it's a little bit longer Like, it's because it's just, and that's how shoots traditionally fit. But now we've got Aoki and Peterson disrupting the industry, and it's not good for anybody. And, you know, I don't want to blame. And Tate. I don't want to blame Suit Supply, but they have to have, they have dirty hands. I don't know who is making these suits, but it does need to stop. And, yeah, like I said before, sorry. Sorry, Steve. But, you know, someone's got to, someone's got to tell you that fit ain't. that someone has to say nan nan to you how often how often do you think um how often do you think that stevie okey listens to this podcast be honest never he's never listened to this never listened to this not once no absolutely not do you think he listens to podcast i think 50 chance he remembers my name no jason you literally spent like every night of your life with this guy for like seven years i know

But still. You really think it's that fucked up? Okay. No, I mean, once you're off on a different world and different people, I mean, obviously he'll know who I am. I was exaggerating there. If I'm going to listen to a podcast, it's going to be obviously biohacking. So I get it from that standpoint. Fuck yeah. He might be listening to some light Huberman lab to figure out how to live longer or something like that. Shout out to Huberman. I think Huberman listens to this podcast if so. You do? Send me a DM. I don't know. I have like a weird feeling. I don't understand him. I don't know anything about it. I just see Emily Oberg repost it on Instagram. He's like a bro, like a Stanford scientist who's also buff and hot and like tatted up. Okay, so he's like the most acceptable of those guys for the reasons you just stated. Is that the overall? It's kind of like MIT meets West Coast Choppers kind of vibe. I would love if he changed his description of his show to MIT meets West Coast Chopper. But to distill it down, it's just that he's the king of bro science. Yeah, sure. But he also, I imagine he makes it digestible for dum-dums. But he's smarter than Rogan. Oh, yeah, yeah, much smarter. But I think his thing is, it might not be so much where you're trying to dumb something down for the masses. um you know pandering to to the bros i think what he might do is tell or talk about things and use complex scientific words and language because when you listen to it it makes you feel like you're smarter even though you have no idea what this person is talking about but if they're using these big words and talking about these things that you know are about getting buff and like being able to like not be hung over then it makes you pay attention to it more. And, you know, when you hang out at your next kickback, you can mention amino acid depository 95 C points. So he's talking about, okay, I understand. So he's talking about like kind of general bro topics in a smart way, actually. So it's like, it's the opposite. Okay. That, that makes, that makes a little more sense because it makes people feel good. Yeah. It's like, it's like any, any subject that he's talking about could be a headline from Maxim magazine. Like,

How to please her in bed, you know, or, like, how to, you know, survive leg day, or... Well, that sounds good. Ultimate hangover cures. Okay, so smoke weed and take a perk. By the way, we got to talk about... I'm sorry. Yes. We got to talk about this young thug getting the perk. Or at the, in the courtroom. You can't, you can't blame the guy for trying. I can't blame the guy for trying, but I just want to be clear because I, you sent me the video and I'm just, he got fully caught. Like there's no question that this happened. Yeah. So if you, for listeners who don't know, a friend of his who is also, I don't know, he may have been on trial or like was waiting, awaiting trial or something like that, but he went to sort of pay his respects with a, with a little side hug or something to him and then handed off a Percocet pill. hand-to-hand in the middle of a live courtroom while he was you know the fate of his life was about to be chosen and i mean look now it's a good time for me to try to illegally smuggle drugs into jail and he got caught and then you know the other guy who gave the drugs to him he like kind of bailed he got caught and he tried they had to go to take him to the hospital and pump his stomach because he tried to swallow all the other shit he had on him I didn't realize that. But I was just thinking. It was just really making you think. I've been sitting in jail for months. I've had a crippling drug addiction for basically my entire life. And now I'm clean and sober. And my friend's like, yo, when we go to court today, I'm going to give you a perk. And tonight you're going to. It'll be one positive. nice night let me say something let me say something months full of hell let me say something bro do you know how good that one perk first of all one perk doesn't do shit to a grown man that's how so that's how clean he is is that one would have sent him to fucking mars and he was thinking about it oh my god he was so excited you're in your bunk you're in you know you're you're in hell you're in jail your life sucks you go from being a famous guy who can do whatever he wants well have you seen to being a prisoner and

And that's so close to being high on Percocet, and then it's all taken away. And now that's never going to happen. They're going to be keeping a close eye on him for the rest of his life. You've seen what's going on with the Gunna stuff, too. Everybody's unfollowing Gunna. Even Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama unfollowed Gunna because she is a real one, as we suspected. Let me be clear. We do not. Fuck was 12. Let me be clear. Can you imagine Barack and Michelle being like, I can't believe he rolled over at the dinner table? Them talking about Gunna being a snitch and how they're YSL for life. I think this is all young thug. I blame thug. I agree. I just don't think Gunna would have done that if he wasn't told it's cool. Like, if he wasn't told, like, you're good, like, it's all, you know what I mean? I don't think he would do that. As much as I love the music of Young Thug and his childlike personality and his based wisdom, he is most likely kind of an evil person, you know? I don't know. I just don't know. I mean, what do you do? It's like, what do you do? Because it's like, if your man tells you you've been in jail for so long. Like you said, I don't think people... And even we can't comprehend the like going from being a famous multimillionaire, doing whatever you want for years to being in. You wake up, snap your fingers, somebody starts sucking your dick, whatever it is you want is there. unlimited money you're in solitary confinement like these guys were literally like i think gunna was literally in solitary for a while like that's like there's nothing trust me i just did i just did three days when bay was out of town bro it ain't easy it ain't easy it ain't easy i've been off perks for six years it ain't easy but the so the the the the change is so severe and then if your man is like you know what

like do your thing like you got to go like i'll you know whatever if that's what happened like you don't think twice about that you're under you're like you're literally like this is the work that i didn't my life can't get worse you know so it's like it's not like he's of sound mind to make this decision regardless true yeah you're in desperation mode the whole thing is crazy i i kind of can't believe it's real honestly like the using the using lyrics in court thing is one of the most twisted fucked up things that like i that that could possibly it's really wild and like i know that i think certain states are like outlawing it now oh yeah but like that's really one of the that's really fucked up and i i don't i mean that's just really i don't know i'm shocked yeah even though they're saying like oh you can't you can't really do that you have to throw that out in court they still hear it it's also like what it's it's the same thing as like once you go to couples therapy the relationship's already over like once they're trying to figure out a way to use your lyrics against you in court even if they can't legally do that specifically anymore that means it's only a matter of time until they find the other like it's gonna happen that's what always confuses me when they're like somebody says something they can't say in court and the judge is like jury disregard that it's like bitch what you you heard so i'm just gonna forget that this guy said i shot like what do you mean like that's not human beings don't work like that like that's not how it works i'm not gonna forget something juicy that someone said still in my saved fault is still in my recently deleted folder like your honor judge i'll don't worry i swallowed the key you know what i'm saying i'm good bro i'm a vault yeah put this one judge i'll put that in the vault yeah it's like i don't i don't know how that i don't know how that works but yeah i mean oh let the let the record state uh i put that on my mama that i will never remember that Don't worry. When we're in the room deliberating over shitty sandwiches for the next 18 days, I'll never remember that small detail. Did you see the pictures of Robert Pattinson at Dior? Yes, the one where he looks like tar. The best response I saw was, fellas, you've got to start wearing pants again.

This skirt shit is over. That's just what you said. No, no, no. I mean, I said that, but a lot of people are saying that. And it's like, I think that the skirt thing, as much as I... It's been abused. Well, it's between this and the guy from Emily in Paris wearing the Louis Vuitton skirt looking terrible. Like, it's just like... That was rough. They did Robert Pattinson. Kim Jones did Robert Pattinson so dirty, bro. This guy, Robert Pattinson is... This is what's happening, though. This is my theory on this. Robert Pattinson is such a classically, he's just a really good looking straight white guy. Yeah, he's straight. Let's go with that. They want him to be weird so bad that they do shit like this to him. And he just, he's like, how much you pay me? I don't give a shit. All right. Like, yeah, I'll wear a fucking fur. I'll wear a fur jacket with a skirt and boots, like whatever. Like it doesn't look good. Like skirts can look cool. This does not look cool. I don't know. It's shocking to an extent to me. It is shocking. Just because it's a skirt does not mean it's okay. You're Robert Pattinson. You are a sex symbol male with cheekbones chiseled from... From marble, you should not dress like Mary J. Blige on the red carpet. That does not serve anyone whatsoever. Can you imagine looking... Who is it for? Like, can you imagine... Bro, if I look like Robert Pattinson, I'm literally wearing jeans and a t-shirt. Like, it's some James Dean-level shit, where it's like... Yeah, I'm dressing like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, just... Yeah, like, I'm good. Just a thin t-shirt that's not very loose. Yeah. and a pair of dickies some vans yeah like i'm walking around i'm good bro king of the world i'm good like it don't nothing else matters it's crazy like timothy chamelay is a little is a little twink so he has to try a little harder but like pattinson even the guy from emily in paris that guy is hot that guy's extremely good looking classically handsome good looking guy like Just wear some clothes, dude. Put on a suit. You're a classically handsome, good-looking guy. Why are you wearing the quinceañera dress on the red carpet? He went quinceañera skirt with the cropped sweater, too. He said, Emily in Guadalajara. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy. And it's like...

It's, it's, it's just like, I don't think you're, I guess I do. I'm just like, whatever you think this is doing guys, it's not doing that. Like, it's just not, it's, it's not doing that. And I don't know what, I don't know if we have an end in sight. I never, I just don't know if, I think this might be something that continues because it's just going to trickle down. And next thing we know, I mean, it's a guy from Netflix where I won, like how much, I mean, wait till the peacock guys get ahold of these skirts. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we don't know how far this could go, dude. This started with the, I mean, It's a long fall from the top, Jason. Speaking of long falls, I was listening to another podcast, and they were talking about airlines. You want to say what podcast it was? I'm trying to remember. Actually, I don't even remember. It was earlier in the week, but it reminded me of a fun thing to add to Chris Airlines. A guy was telling a story about how he was sitting in first class, and then... like a fan of his was walking down the aisle and did like a stop and, or not a fan, but maybe like a fellow comedian or something like that, did a stop and, oh, it was a Neil Brennan podcast. You're saying the comedians fly first class to go play for 20 people at the Chuckle Factory? Not all of them. But some of them do. Okay. Okay. That's cool to know. I didn't realize. The ones that drive Lamborghinis to the store definitely do. The ones that hang out with NBA players because they write Nike commercials? Yes. That's the ones that kind of... Okay. Okay. And telling a story about how somebody did a stop and chat with him while he was in first and then holding up the line because another guy was... Yeah. And the glare that you get from everybody behind him like this fucking guy. And then he said when somebody was really pissed off, they walked past him and kind of like maybe checked them a little bit with their bag. You know what I mean? Like gave them a little bop. You know what I mean? Not like a full offensive attack, but a little like, oops, did I hit you with my carry-on? I'm so sorry. Like when the flight attendant hits you in the knee with the cart, the drink cart, and they're like, oh, sorry.

Your knee shouldn't have been... They love that. Knees and elbows, knees and elbows, knees and elbows coming through the cabin, knees and elbows. So that kind of energy, and they were talking about the bop, and it had me thinking about, you know, there should be a world that's combining the art. I'm kind of stealing their idea, but adding a little flavor to it. In the art world, you walk into a gallery, there's a bunch of paintings, and you'll put a little red dot next to the one that you want to buy. Sure. So here's the rule on Chris Ayer. You walk in, first class, let's say there's 20 people there. Every person on the plane has one red dot sticker. And you go, and whichever person... in first class who you hate you think they shouldn't belong there they don't deserve it they're an asshole they're a douchebag whatever you know you always get on the plane and you're like where is this fucking person in first class like you always you know what i mean yeah no i mean and then camera so everyone sitting in camera operators do travel a lot so it's crazy exactly or just like a terrible mom who's letting their kids like jump and jump around or like the super douchey scammer guy Whoever it is where you're like, oh, I really wish that that person was sitting in like row 68 next to the toilet instead of B2. So everyone sitting in economy, coach, comfort plus, whatever, you get one sticker, and then you put that sticker next to the seat number of whoever you hate in first class. At the end, once everyone's boarded, you tally up the stickers, whoever has the most votes. They have to go sit and coach. And then everyone in coach come together and then you decide who deserves to go and sit in first class. Make a wish vibe, kid in a wheelchair, somebody whose family member just died, they get nominated. I like this because this is a great idea. This is a great idea and it brings people together and also pushes them apart, which could cause violence in the air. At Chris Arrow, we don't encourage, but we do tolerate if it's a deserving party. But this reminds me – I mean the real issue with this and something that I've thought about a lot is they act like boarding first is a privilege because in theory, you're getting like overhead space. Here's the thing. I want to board last. I want to walk on the plane five minutes before it's going to take off.

put my duffel bag above my seat, because if you're in first class, they should reserve the bins for you, and then I take off. They usually do. I don't want to sit for 40 minutes and get hit with bags. It's not a pleasant experience. It would be better to board last, but we've fucked it up. We've gone too far now. But some people get the pleasure and enjoyment of sitting in first class and then making eye contact with every single person that walks by. To the back of the plane where you get to feel that little moment of superiority. Yeah, but we all know that that's loser shit. You know what I mean? Yes, I know those people exist, but we shouldn't reward them. We should take that away from them and make them board. How nice is it to board a plane 10 minutes before it's going to take off, sit in your seat? It's like the extra time. If you sit in Delta 1, you're literally on the plane for 35, 40 minutes before it takes off. Minimum. Not unlike Young Thug, a prisoner in your seat. Honestly, it makes no sense. But I do like the idea of just a group vote. And just to be clear, no refunds. You look like this. You acted like this. You knew what this was when we went into it. I don't like gamifying things, Jason. But in this case, I'm going to let it go. I think it's a pretty fun idea. I just think a lot of people need to be brought back down to earth, me included. If it happened to me and I got kicked back to 46C, I'm going to be thinking about what I did to get this. Did I say something? Is it my pants? You'd be on your Kendrick humble shit. I would never be on my Kendrick shit. Before we wrap up, that's one thing I would like to add also. Just after my first full week at Equinox, the only time I've ever seen people wearing Kendrick Lamar merch, guys at Equinox. Only time I've ever seen it in my entire life. You mean in New York? In my life. Or ever. In my life. I don't think I've, like, people in LA are still wearing Astroworld and kids see ghosts. I've never seen, no one, big steppers, morale, whatever that shit is called, I've never seen that in real life until Equinox in Manhattan. Damn, bro. I've seen three guys in a week. I don't know what to tell you. That's tough. It's crazy. And my heart go out to you.

The fashion at the Glendale Equinox is just beyond that. It's so much worse. It's taking it too far. Before we wrap up, we're very excited about going to London. I'm really getting in the zone, mate. Oh, yeah, that's right. Forgot about London. We're leaving very soon to cross the pond, and we're very excited. The matches, it's a full takeover of the Five Carlos Place, and the show is going to be fun. Our special guest is... Hopefully she knows what she's getting into. And the Moth Club sold out a lot more quickly than we thought. We weren't sure how much the people of England loved us. And enough of them do that we should do another show in the near future. Yeah, hopefully in the summertime we'll come back out and do a show at a bigger venue to make sure everyone can get in. Sorry about that. We didn't, you know. I guess we need to talk to our therapists about our self-confidence issues or whatever, but we didn't think it was going to be that crazy. But thank God it was. Thank God it was. But, yeah, we're looking forward to it. London might be more our biggest market compared to L.A. and New York. Son of a bitch. I know. Who knew? Who knew? We love you guys. I'm looking forward to it, and I'm going to try not to eat much of the food because I did have some issues last time. Oh, that's right. No saucy Dover soul at 11.58 a.m. is something that I've kind of learned. Jason will be getting more adventurous, of course. Just get a rap from the Sainsbury and play it safe. But, yeah, we also, just to give you a programming update, while we're in London, I think some of you will be happy with this. Maybe some of you won't, but it's going to be Chris and Jason only for that week. Just because of scheduling, it's easier for us just to kind of bang it out at the beautiful standard London. They have a nice studio. They have a nice studio for us that they're generously allowing us to use. So you'll be getting full London reports for that week. It'll be how long gone live from the chicken shop all week. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. It's our version. We're going to go, Chris, babes, what's your favorite color?

Have you ever tried pizza? It's pretty good, yeah? Pizza's quite good, yeah? I don't like drinking water. I like soda. That being said, I think she's going to come to our show. Hopefully. My girl Amelia. Amelia Chicken Shop Date, come on How Long Gone. We need you. You're the voice that England needs. And How Long Gone needs your support. Um, we have some guests crossover. We have some friends in common. Um, I don't think it's that far of a stretch. I don't eat chicken, but like I'm down to have a chat. You can have a chip though, Chris. I can. That's true. I can have, I can have a couple of chips for the camera with a little malt vinegar sauce. Oh baby. I do love that. I do love that. But yeah, how long gone? Uh, we'll be coming to you live from, uh, London, England all next week. Uh, we'll see you at matches on the 26. We'll see you at moth club on the 29th. You'll see Jason stumbling through Mayfair drunk a few times. And if you see him, don't approach him. Kind of let him do his thing because he can. I just don't trust you fully. I'm not P-22, bro. Come on. I don't know. I don't know what you're like. I mean, we haven't done this before. We've never crossed the pond together in this way. Yeah, that's true. Well, just be prepared. You're going to see me smash a lot of pint glasses and a lot of punter's hats. That's kind of my main favorite thing to do. Great. I can't wait. I can't wait. It's not a sex thing and it's not not a sex thing. That makes sense for you. All right. How long gone? Thank you guys for listening as always. And we will see you in London next week. a message to go